NEW MAP & MAX5 files

[Cuchillo* 0]

HI ALL!!

New map from "Pege" (K1ller)

Remember the Myotan Sniper!!!well now he comes with a new map for us!!

He include in his site the MAX5.zip

Thanks a lot!!

Guarded Forest

LINK: http://pege.ozbox.org/

Cheers.

[t3K|Murmel2 0]

i just downloaded. really nice one. u wont be disappointed *bootmark*

edit: the matrix is everywhere

Edited October 19, 2003 by t3K|Murmel2

[lexsis 0]

I like what he did with the water, its beautiful. he released the MAX files as well so people can add to this map whatever they wish..., in my opinion, thats the "CORRECT WAY" to release a new map mod !!!

[sleeper 0]

Is this the same one that was released nearly two months ago?

**never mind- It is.

Thought maybe he went back and fixed it. Thanks.

Edited October 19, 2003 by sleeper

[lexsis 0]

Is this the same one that was released nearly two months ago?

**never mind- It is.

Thought maybe he went back and fixed it. Thanks.

fixed it? Ive played it like 3 times., can you please tell us whats wrong with it.

thnx.

[Biro 0]

Check for example the bushes. They are like moving in the ground...but I think it was a great map anyway. Keep up the work and it will only get better and better!

[F'n New Guy 0]

OMG!!!

KID, THATS FARGUN A AWSOME WORK

I NEARLY SHAT MYSELF

[OSO 0]

I like what he did with the water, its beautiful. he released the MAX files as well so people can add to this map whatever they wish..., in my opinion, thats the "CORRECT WAY" to release a new map mod !!!

Why is that the correct way? It's the "SOCIALIST" way. You've already got an example map from RSE. Why do you need others? One must be careful of their work or it will be stolen and pandered off as someone else's work IMO.

If someone chooses to release their source content then that is entirely their perogative. You shouldn't run around flaming artists that choose to protect their hard work.

[k1ller 0]

Much of the techniques I've used in MYTOAN Sniper or Guarded Forest aren't used in example map.

I don't think that stealing others work is very common. All the scripts / missions made in Igor are available for anyone to change but I haven't heard of anyone re-release already released missions with their own name. (Even DAGRM credits people from whom he has stolen work, AFAIK.) Well made missions offer a good view of how script should look like for a starting modder.

If there was similar program for making maps, those maps would probably be editable as well. Now that all the maps must be made in MAX it somehow changes it to "hard work that must be protected". I understand that someone doesn't want to share his work, but the benefits of sharing could be more constructive than keeping it all on yourself. Learning MAX properly takes a good amount of time (and hard work) but it shouldn't be reason to make it hard for those who want to learn it - for modding or other purposes.

It's also good to notice how "well" the "GR community" works. Stalker_Zero long asked for someone to modify MYTOAN to a larger city. It took months to find someone even try it. Eventually no one did nothing. For the record, MYTOAN Sniper MAX5 file has been downloaded over 400 times from ATWAR alone. Maybe people don't want to modify what someone else started, but atleast they want to just take a look at it. And then someone would steal my work, edit it maybe to a little better and re-release it?! Yeah, right!

@Alpha

Moving bushes is the same effect as waving trees. Some of the bushes are maybe little too much inside the ground... With "medium graphics" trees and bushes seem "jumpy" because low-poly models change to high-poly.

@Sleeper

What are those things that I'm doing incorrectly in which you refer in this thread? Maybe if you someday post your actual advice, or preferably fix the problems yourself, I could learn something?

The bugs that are in the map are RSE-generated. I'm still waiting for them to release working tools . (If you have something to complaing about MYTOAN or Guarded Forest, go fix it yourself!)

[San 0]

If you include the max-file people can copy objects and place them in their map, so you'll see no original work. Or they retextured it, but the geometry isn't changed.

You'll see alot of maps coming, but all not original.

I don't want that to happen.

But it's also the best way to learn map-modding in 3DSM. There are many different techniques, and you can learn them all this way.

So there's 2 sides on this story (maybe more !)

My opinion.

[lexsis 0]

I like what he did with the water, its beautiful. he released the MAX files as well so people can add to this map whatever they wish..., in my opinion, thats the "CORRECT WAY" to release a new map mod !!!

Why is that the correct way? It's the "SOCIALIST" way. You've already got an example map from RSE. Why do you need others? One must be careful of their work or it will be stolen and pandered off as someone else's work IMO.

If someone chooses to release their source content then that is entirely their perogative. You shouldn't run around flaming artists that choose to protect their hard work.

what I meant by "correct" is that he provided the files so people can build on it...and what they think is missing from it. the map has just trees and a nice little lake..because he was nice enough to release the max files., people can do endless things with it.

I dont think he's worried about people "steeling" it., he probably makes maps for fun and not fame and glory like some people.

thats just my 3.5 cents.