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I've just been banned from ubisoft forums for adding my opinion to a starforce debate! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forums Membership Information Dear paul, The site administrators have removed your access rights: Disruptive posting. You've been asked to take your starforce conerns up with starforce. Spamming the forums with the complete history of your exchange between Ubi and yourself is not helping any. Tully powered by groupee community ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I was linking the ppl at http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc...7424#6421077424 where a poll is currently running about starforce to my thread http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc...62/m/1121067124 So they could see the issues I was having but Ubi mods deemed this not “helping any†I would of thought letting ppl know the truth of how we are treated when we have an issue is very relevant! as for spamming i think pigfister2005 posted twice on the forum, the 2nd time was a reply to ubisof stating that people should try and contact ubisof for help instead of posting noncence in the forum. My post may have been a bit strong but I have suffered much stress over this issue that DOES NOT EXIST but I have had nothing but a mess about from ubisoft so I am understandably fractious to say the least! MY POST: pigfister2005 Posted Mon March 20 2006 06:49 quote: Originally posted by Targ: Posting rants on these boards does little good, have any of you thought to actually e-mail UBI and let them know how you feel? Use that thing on top of your shoulders people, throwing hissy fits on these boards is stupid and pathetic and a huge waste of time. use the thing at the top of your shoulders please the thread unhappy-boy linked to was my post where i ask ubi for help and advice but all i got was shown the door and mocked by listing me to a competition that had closed!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc...62/m/1121067124 BTW IT TOOK 2 WEEKS TO GET THIS LAME RESPONSE AS FOR THE STUPID RESPONSE I NEVER SAID THAT IT DAMAGED MY SYSTEM JUST STOPPED MY BURNERS WORKING TILL I REMOVED STARFORCE!!!!!! Response (UK Technical Support) - 03/15/2006 13:42 Hello, My apologies for the delay in a response. We are simply a company which uses the starforce protection system to protect our game assets. If you feel that the protection system for our game has damaged your system then you will be best advised to contact the copy protection company directly. There is contact details available on the following website : http://www.star-force.com Please also note that the starforce company has an offer going that if you can prove that damage was done to your system as a result of the starforce protection system then you can win a cash prize. See the following link for details : http://www.star-force.com/protection.phtml?c=261­&id=707 Thanks, Technical Support.

yeah thanks. lol. @ colin down at drakes corner i live about 60miles north of you in sunny barnstaple! i got a response that told me to uninstall my ide controllers from device manager which i have done but now power dvd is acting up by taking ages to access my dvds and has failed once already. i would post what starforce said but in thier emails it contained "The information of this letter is confidential and must not be disclosed to third persons." i have since then been adding my own disclaimer: this is not the most recent email as i have yet to get a response! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER: ANY RESPONSE FROM ANY EMAILS I SEND YOU WILL BE PUBLISHED ONLINE SO IF THERE IS ANY CONFIDENTIAL INFO DO NOT INCLUDE AS THESE EMAILS WILL BE ACCESSIBLE BY ANYONE ON THE INTERNET!! And do what? "My Computer -> Properties -> Device Manager." As stated below I have uninstalled my 3 ide controllers what now? -----Original Message----- From: StarForce Support - Sergei Komissarov [mailto:support@star-force.com] Sent: 16 March 2006 10:58 To: ******* Subject: [TRACK-0000012114] RE: ello again: Hello My Computer -> Properties -> Device Manager. Best regards. ----------------- Sergei Komissarov Customer Support Group StarForce Technologies The information of this letter is confidential and must not be disclosed to third persons. ----- Original Message ----- From: ******<*****> To: StarForce Support - Sergei Komissarov <support@star-force.com> Sent: 16 Март 2006 Subject: ello again: DISCLAIMER: ANY RESPONSE FROM ANY EMAILS I SEND YOU WILL BE PUBLISHED ONLINE SO IF THERE IS ANY CONFIDENTIAL INFO DO NOT INCLUDE AS THESE EMAILS WILL BE ACCESSIBLE BY ANYONE ON THE INTERNET!! Ok I have done the ide thing. Is that all I need to do to correct this issue? Yes I did update starforce. I have sent you a msinfo32 report and a print screen and a dxdiag already with the first email. How do I do the ide thing, if it means removing hardware I will not be able to do that as I do not interfere with the internals of my pc. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Braid To: Sent: 15 Март 2006 Subject: errors Ubisoft have passed the buck to you so here goes ok I get a code 7 error when I try to burn any cd or DVD but as soon as I uninstall starforce this corrects itself and my burners both work fine again. I can recreate this error within a couple of days of starforce being on my pc. this is my 2nd DVD burner as my first a msi dr8-a started exactly the same as my current 1 a nec dvd_rw nd-3540a but the msi took about 4 months of constantly being glitchy and throwing errors on discs before it failed completely. the issues I have is that most cd or DVD I try to burn either have errors on disc or get 3/4 through the copy they stop. I have wasted loads of blank media due to this error and didn't realise till now what the cause was please can you help me as I have several starforce games that I cannot play due to the bad code. BTW your uninstaller does not remove all your code there are more reg entries but I think you get the picture:

i had an email back from ubi eventually passing the buck to starforce: Recently you requested personal assistance from our on-line support center. Below is a summary of your request and our response. We will assume your issue has been resolved if we do not hear from you within 48 hours. Thank you for allowing us to be of service to you. To update this question by email, please reply to this message. Because your reply will be processed automatically, you MUST enter your reply in the space below. Text entered into any other part of this message will be discarded. [===> Please enter your reply below this line <===] [===> Please enter your reply above this line <===] To update your question from our support site, click on the following link or paste it into your Web browser. http://ubisoft-en.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ubi...ated=1141833403 Subject --------------------------------------------------------------- I installed your game and played it fine but the very next day I started to g... Discussion Thread --------------------------------------------------------------- Response (UK Technical Support) - 03/15/2006 13:42 Hello, My apologies for the delay in a response. We are simply a company which uses the starforce protection system to protect our game assets. If you feel that the protection system for our game has damaged your system then you will be best advised to contact the copy protection company directly. There is contact details available on the following website : http://www.star-force.com Please also note that the starforce company has an offer going that if you can prove that damage was done to your system as a result of the starforce protection system then you can win a cash prize. See the following link for details : http://www.star-force.com/protection.phtml?c=261­&id=707 Thanks, Technical Support. Customer (paul braid) - 03/12/2006 19:19 can you please respond to this question it has been well over 24hours and still no answer for me! Customer (paul braid) - 03/12/2006 17:02 can you please respond to this email asap i can get this error to reoccure within hours of installing your game and it disappears as soon as you remove the drivers please make a fix avalible to ppl playing your games! Auto-response - 03/08/2006 15:56 Title: What are the system requirements for Brothers in Arms - Earned in Blood Link: http://ubisoft-en.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ubi...ated=1129825188 Title: What Ports are Required to Play Brothers in Arms: Earned in Blood Online? Link: http://ubisoft-en.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ubi...ated=1128599250 Title: Where can i find the Brothers in Arms 1.02 update Link: http://ubisoft-en.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ubi...ated=1129646863 Title: Where can i find my installation key and the CD -key to play on-line Link: http://ubisoft-en.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ubi...ated=1128445056 Title: What are the recommended pc secs for Brothers in Arms - Earned in Blood Link: http://ubisoft-en.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ubi...ated=1128598273 Customer (paul braid) - 03/08/2006 15:56 I installed your game and played it fine but the very next day I started to get errors when burning with my DVD drive. this happened 4 times so I uninstalled the starforce copy protection and my burner now works again what going on I have a game I cannot use because of the dodgy code you are bundling with your software, sort it out. I would like a full refund on the game that is useless to me as it messes with my hardware! Event Properties: Source Cdrom Type Error. Event ID:7 0000: 03 02 68 00 01 00 b8 00 ..h...¸. 0008: 00 00 00 00 07 00 04 c0 .......À 0010: 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ 0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ 0020: 00 00 31 17 01 00 00 00 ..1..... 0028: ed 7a 05 00 00 00 00 00 íz...... 0030: ff ff ff ff 02 00 00 00 ÿÿÿÿ.... 0038: 40 00 00 c4 02 00 01 00 @..Ä.... 0040: ff 20 0a 12 4c 02 00 00 ÿ ..L... 0048: 00 00 00 00 88 13 00 00 ....ˆ... 0050: 00 00 18 02 e8 53 e1 84 ....èSá„ 0058: 00 00 00 00 f0 86 c6 84 ....ð†Æ„ 0060: 00 00 00 00 20 e6 22 00 .... æ". 0068: 28 00 00 22 e6 20 00 00 (.."æ .. 0070: 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ 0078: f0 00 03 00 22 e6 20 0a ð..."æ . 0080: 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 ........ 0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ Question Reference No060308-000288 --------------------------------------------------------------- Escalation Level: 26 hours from time updated 1 Product Level 1: PC Titles Product Level 2: Brothers in Arms Earned in Blood Category Level 1: General Category Level 2: any Date Created: 03/08/2006 15:56 Last Updated: 03/15/2006 13:42 Status: Waiting DXDIAG Attached?: Yes [---001:004141:44571---]

brothers in arms earned in blood uk ver has starforce drivers included

Inevitably that will be the end result for pc games but who wants a game that screws up their system, is a £30 game worth playing when your hardware costs £1300 and up. If Ubi include code that they will not offer any support for, well maybe it’s their own fault?

that tool fails to remove all traces of the starforce code http://www.glop.org/starforce/remove.php go there and heed their advice.

I fell like i'm :wall: a wall Specter!what do you do if you purchase a game that a top publisher will offer no support for and the copy protection people cant even tell the diferance between error codes ?

warning ppl do not purchase any ubisoft game with starforce included as you will get no tech support from them this is where i have been posting to get some help from ubi: http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc...8224#6341018224 i have now been told that ubisoft they cannot help at all and even though its their game i need to seek help from starforce: this is my post at starforce: http://www.star-force.com/forum/index.php?...&st=0#entry3379

All code can be cracked but starforce is damaging my computer. If you want to play online you need a serial so why is starforce there? I care more about my system than a game. I get no support for ubisoft what so ever. aaaarrrggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH The corporate ###### suckin the big ###### of Satan will burn in hell for all eternity.. WHY DO THEY NOT RESPOND? Thats about all i can say on that topic. http://www.star-force.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=707 MODERATOR EDIT: Do not bypass the swear filter.

i can recreate the error within a day of usage with my drives, i have just posted on the starforce threads to see what trouble shooting advice they offer, probably delete my post or lock the thread. ::Burning Errors:: Starforce forums i have had no response from ubi so i have contacted game(uk) as i purchased the game from them so they are the ones who have to take up the matter on my behalf. If i can get enough people to see the errors i am experiencing maybe more people will realisd that their drives are affected by starforce and they will speak out to fix this fatal flaw with the protection.

WARNING PPL DO NOT PURCHASE THIS GAME here you can fin a list of games that use the c**p http://www.similarities.org/starforce.html this is my first post here but i have had an issue with starforce for a while now first dvd drive i had was a msi DR8-A which started not long after i installed psi ops but back then i did not realise what the cause was i just thought that my burner was faulty and after 4 months of media failing to write to disc it completely stopped working but after i installed brothers in arms earned in blood recently i started to get the same errors with my new nec dvd_rw nd-3540a so i took the starforce copy protection off my pc and right after a reeboot my drive started working with no errors(i tried to copy the same disc i got 3 errors previously). i can get this error to reoccure within hours of installing starforce and the fault dissapeares as soon as i remove the dodgy code from my drive so is it starforce that causes this? below is a question that i asked ubisoft about the copy of brothers in arms i own but i still have not heared a thing. i sent this 2 weeks ago now and on my space the status of the question is Holding this is the ref no. 060308-000288 so if any ubi soft fools are hear please respond asap as 2 weeks is a joke! http://ubisoft-en.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ubi...ser/std_alp.php THIS IS THE 4TH EMAIL I SENT AND BY THIS TIME I AM BECOMING QUITE FRACTIOUS. I installed your game and played it fine but the very next day I started to get errors when burning with my DVD drive. this happened 4 times so I uninstalled the starforce copy protection and my burner now works again ###### is going on I have a game I cannot use because of the **** you are bundling with your software, sort it out btw I want a full refund on the game that is useless to me as it messes with my hardware! Event Properties: Source Cdrom Type Error. Event ID:7 0000: 03 02 68 00 01 00 b8 00 ..h...¸. 0008: 00 00 00 00 07 00 04 c0 .......À 0010: 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ 0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ 0020: 00 00 31 17 01 00 00 00 ..1..... 0028: ed 7a 05 00 00 00 00 00 íz...... 0030: ff ff ff ff 02 00 00 00 ÿÿÿÿ.... 0038: 40 00 00 c4 02 00 01 00 @..Ä.... 0040: ff 20 0a 12 4c 02 00 00 ÿ ..L... 0048: 00 00 00 00 88 13 00 00 ....ˆ... 0050: 00 00 18 02 e8 53 e1 84 ....èSá„ 0058: 00 00 00 00 f0 86 c6 84 ....ð†Æ„ 0060: 00 00 00 00 20 e6 22 00 .... æ". 0068: 28 00 00 22 e6 20 00 00 (.."æ .. 0070: 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ 0078: f0 00 03 00 22 e6 20 0a ð..."æ . 0080: 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 ........ 0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ P.S. there was a dxdiag and print screen of the event manager included, i will post any response i get other that the automated one. Do you think if your backups fail that it is your media or the drive itself who would believe that a copy protection could be the cause, maybe that this is why so few people contact ubi and other companies about this, untill this code is tested by a none starforce/ubisoft dept. i will never install another starforce protected game and i believe that ubisoft and others should be forced to state the fact that starforce is included so people are not duped.