[Graw 2 is slowly dieing]

Me to prefer Graw2 then Cod4,to fake for me.

For fun i prefer team fortress 2 )

TF2 is fun!

As for GR, I still have fun and enjoy playing the game. I really like the new map pack playing castle day just brings back a flood of good times.

If it's dead I really enjoyed playing and still do now, but next time put freaking VOIP and Squads play in the damn muilti player. Plus the m40 from [GR] as well heheheeh

[Graw 2 is slowly dieing]

I am not sure I understand this VOIP thing!?

Most every clan has TeamSpeak or Ventrillo, of the top servers in game only 1 or 2 do not have a Voip.

All one has to do is ask for the password or just enter.

Most clans do that' s right, but not everyone that plays is in a clan or has vent or ts. Or given the fact you can't talk to anyone while playing unless they're in your TS or Vent. Therefore voip should be ingame just like CSS, or BF2 and many other games.

Say you're in a sever with 26 people. How you going to tell someone they're flanking right if half you team is not in vent or ts.

Stop and type... Unless it's match play no one is vent or ts unless it's you and your clan mates..

Are you really willing to stop and help someone that has no idea how to use TS or Vent. Trust me they are out there. It' s not as simple as you say all one has to do is ask for the password or just enter

[Graw 2 is slowly dieing]

the lack of VOIP built in doomed it from teh start IMO. Chasing people around in RvsA when they can't hear you is fruitless. And dragging people to your Teampseak is like pulling teeth at times. Sure you get one or two every now and then. But it seems the vast majority of players (non clan tags) are playing with no VOIP and I dunno about the rest of you. But GRAW, or ANY tactical game with no VOIP kinda stinks, or begins to stink after a short time.

I still think it's a good game, hell I thought GRAW (once patched) was pretty good. We could really use a map pack or map download feature, or a map editor that didn't require a degree in grin physics for the average gray hair to learn.

kp

No voip, and no squad play just hurts the game so much!

There's no ingame commands to tell squad mates where and how you want to attack. It's a free for all not a tactical game

[GRAW2: Anti Cheat is needed ASAP]

Keyster

Nah the best is the non admined server... the one that says no GL and has vote kick on with only like 2 votes needed to remove someone. I got kicked for having to many kills... lol dang guys vote kicked me. Then i got accused by a non member of this squad for GL'ing when i hand naded. Vote kicked again i was.

Rabbi

Yeah for one of our members to ban he MUST get a screenshot or FRAPS of the event. Which means he needs to sit the round and watch the guy.

It then MUST be posted in our forums with attached proof. We will however kick for very high pings after telling the person why. And language gets you a warning, then a kick then a ban (with screenshots taken)

@Keyster: you're right, there ARE some less-than-desireable admin's out there, but I do't think many of them are represented among the regulars of these forums. I used AFZ as an example for having seen their process in action firsthand. I can tell you I've always had good experiences with them, RS, SCE, WDA, BDA, 30+ (my homies) and some others you commonly see here. The guys/gals who've been at it a while and made their names did so honestly.

@ROCO: I remember all of the above for m9whore, and in the end it took him misrepresenting himself intentionally to get the AFZ boot. He had more than enough opportunities to avoid it and exploit the benefit of the doubt to stay in your server. I thought that experience was a GREAT example of how the system should work, lacking a working anticheat as we are.

Yeah the m9whore one was a good one... although we usually don't do a public vote to get rid of a hack. It was done because i knew his buddy that was seen doing the same things on another server would vote for him. This gave us his buddies IP. We didn't ban the buddy but kept it as reference in case we saw him doing the same on our server. That doesn't get you banned from our website though. They are free to argue in there ban thread all they want... but when you put on AFZ tags and go around tking peeps. That was the last straw... total site ban.

BDA is usually good although there shooting into the spawn rule can be confusiong as sometimes peeps camp in the spawn and shoot out.

RS, SCE and 30+ are all old GR1 clans and always have been fair. WDA we really don't see much....

You rang, wee are here old buddy, but because this game is not supported as well it should be we are waiting on FFW plus the fact most of us are back in college, myself included.

[GRAW2: Anti Cheat is needed ASAP]

Wow soon to be 13 pages and still no answer on a ANTI-Cheat. Does anyone know if thier will be an answer anytime soon? Like next month?

[Support class and smokes O MY?]

I had a thread like this a few weeks ago and basically the conclusion was "We aren't gonna change the game, so stop asking"

Rather stupid, I think. Of course the support class is suppose to be a suppressive role, by laying down massive amounts of fire. In real life, people stay down when a M249 is firing their way. However, in a VG, they pop up anyway because it's not their real life on the line, and take a few hits and headshot the MG gunner.

I would agree the support class should have a bigger role in GRAW2 in MP. Really why would even play support, one you have no hand nades, smokes, or noob tube . Nor can you put down any kind of formitable suppressing gun fire at any range at all.

Thus this is why GRAW2 is overran with noob tubes and riflemen class. The support class has been deliberately exclude from playing any kind of role in the game. At least give him a THIS!

[Has GRAW 2 run its course?]

Docks, Creekbed!!! I'm with you too stalker as I have no idea what the he77 their saying in the modding fourms

[Has GRAW 2 run its course?]

Welp... the PS3 and 360 GRAW 2 versions are sitting pretty with 33 unique MP maps...

we have ........................ 8

Well when it's not being played in a month because halo3.543 comes out or madden 0.04885 well still be here. To bad PC players can't fight the console players, of course we'd have to slow our pc's way down! lol

[Support class and smokes O MY?]

Did the Mk 48 get less accurate from GRAW? I mean, it wasn't a marksman's choice in GRAW by any means, but it was pretty decent. And I haven't noticed it in GRAW2 SP, as I haven't played the game that much and have been far more interested in the RX4 and M416 as the team lead than a LMG.

Let's say for now that a decent LMG will divide one's enemies into two groups- those who wisely find cover, and those who will need a mop and bucket to get into a body bag. So I suppose this makes one wonder if the Mk 48 qualifies as 'decent' in GRAW2.

Crap, now I have to find that disc...

I've used short bursts myself, or it'd ride too much, and even with anybody else using it (AI) it seems a bit more accurate. With the better ROF setting for the AI teammates, it actually requires only a few bursts, than half a bean bag for one tango. If they made a "shorty" (collapsing stock, short barrelled) 249 then I'd use it more often. I've used the 249 in RvS quite successfully on my stack (hell even the 240B) and it'd be cool to have one (optic capable too!) for GRAW. Or some really futuristic-cool-neato squad auto. The Mk48 just isn't accurate enough as it is to really be useful.

I'd much rather my squad all have M416s, Rx4s, SCARs and MR-Cs than have a single one with a SAW. They are just too unreliable in this game. When someone is prone firing at me with one from any more than 30m I just calmly walk out, put my weapon on semi-auto, and put one in his head. I may get hit once or twice, but I have virtually no fear of those weapons like I do others.

That's why I don't deploy with any Mk48s in GRAW2, I don't favor the Rx4 as it seems to have less "oomph" than an M416 or MR-C, SCARs, or the M8. I try to move as fast as tactically possible and I need my shooters with accurate weapons that don't take too long for them to kill.

As for flashbangs? My only response is why? I can understand in Rainbow Six, where the main emphasis is room clearing/hostage taking, where flashbangs are tactically necessary, but as far as MOUT in Juarez? Nah smokes and HE are the name of the game personally, as it's war and getting through tight scrapes is necessary. However... it'd be nice to use for "Get Me Rosen" (maybe making the flashbangs available for that mission), but then again, only for the tangos at the bottom of the stairs and the guard. Then again if you ride the weapon right it doesn't seem to be necessary. So would flashbangs be nice? Yes, but the missions don't overall support the necessity of them.

Eric,

I was talking about flash bangs for MP mode bro not SP. They're good for Sp mode I guess but MP I think a flash nade would be way more effective. I was also referring to MP mode about the support class which for the most part no one ever plays it. As it has no vital role in MP mode at all, it needs to have something to help the support class, well become a support class would be the best way to say it I guess..

Thank you for the input on the subject at least you did reply with some good feedback. Sorry if I didn't make it clear bro

[Sound Issues?]

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Memory: 2560 MB Corsair RAM

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Mouse Surface: Razor gamming surface pad

Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition 32 bit SP 2

I keep getting like 5 second lag on the sound when I shot or get killed. IS anyone else getting this in MP mode?

[Has GRAW 2 run its course?]

we have the game.. let the mods begin!

My first one is out! Already working on another......

http://www.ghostrecon.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=46562

d/l, install, enjoy....... I'll have it up on our server "KI.KillingField" later tonight

LOL pistols only we playing on docks???

[Please forgive me but, i've come to this conclusion]

Well said papa! A person is never judged on how they died, rather it's on how they lived. Truly sorry for your lose papa

[GRAW2 CHEATS?]

Good place to start

[Has GRAW 2 run its course?]

I honestly don't give a ******* <--- insert free cursing here about you and or your hate for PB and you need to bash pb as many times as you can in a sentence. And when it comes to [GR], why does people have to reinvent the weel time and time again, whatever GRiN or you say this is a sequel to [GR] and it should not have less features than the game this game originates from? And give GRiN a chance? i think i have given GRiN alot more than a chance and i will propably give them more chances than this but that don't include shuting up when i think something is wrong.

I honestly don't care if you want to cry, whine, complain, or gripe since you want to get personal, if it's so bad go to control panal and uninstall the program The only intense bashing, extreme aversion, or hostility that I see spewing is yours alone, and how you derived at anyone tell you to shut up is absurdity ridiculous!

I was trying to show how the other side of the coin works, but your malice's discontent for GRAW 2 by far surpasses my QUOTE hatred for PB.

Squel to what GHOST RECON 2 on xbox was the first squel, then GRAW and now GRAW2 again maybe you should wait and see what others can mod up or add to it before you start loathing about it. Seeing the game was released around 7/17/07 ... WOW

As for having less features maybe someone from GRIN could answer that if you PM them! Before you start ranting about how great it was way back when, or you could install and go play [GR] which would suit you fine I'd bet!

Please continue your idiotic psychobabble! You've already indicated your opinion/disposition for GRAW 2. The fact that you had to retort in a retaliatory way I found it to be humorous

[Has GRAW 2 run its course?]

HEY GIVE GRIN A CHANCE! You think it's bad AHHH you don't know how bad it can get, go play bf2/2142/ and soon to be crysis, and try EA support/PB support! Then you will learn! At least you can ask GRIN a question about the game here.

You could get this!!!PunkBuster at it's best!

OR EA SUPPORT AT ITS BEST

Or here's a noble IDEA let them work on the next patch and go from their. If you're so stuck in the past about [GR] then go play [GR] that simple! Hate to be a A**HOLE but the game's not even a YEAR old some of you asking about GRAW 3 . Graw 2 is not a bad game yes the MP side needs some closer urban maps and some bugs worked on but what game comes out perfect now a days?

Also GRIN needs to step up and address thier ANTI CHEAT system, hopefully the modding community can provide us with some new guns and maps for match play time will tell.

[Support class and smokes O MY?]

I'd much rather my squad all have M416s, Rx4s, SCARs and MR-Cs than have a single one with a SAW. They are just too unreliable in this game. When someone is prone firing at me with one from any more than 30m I just calmly walk out, put my weapon on semi-auto, and put one in his head. I may get hit once or twice, but I have virtually no fear of those weapons like I do others.

This what I'm talking about there is no fear from support class. I'm sure they are good for something in SP but in MP worthless..IMO. As Nut stated you can be 30m's away firing down and can't hit nothing why is that? Even in a controled busts, I've not been able to see the effeteness of said class of player.

Really in match play, scrims, or MP mode does anyone really play them? If so are you really helping your team? Or just being a target because the maps are so open, I can't see playing support as helping role... I mean really you have a big gun that can't hit a thing at 30 meters and no nades? Support my foot!

Also all that being said how many would rather have a flash then smoke frags? I know I would love to have a flash instead of a smoke, or even better 1 more hand frag! That would be sweet! Smokes don't do much I've seen, yea there good in a few tight spots, but think about a flash would be much more of a deterrent in most cases then a smoke frag. Seeing how all the maps are mostly open formats, if there maps had more of an urban characteristics to it I could see how smokes might be more effectively used.

1.) LOVE the new sig, man. Freakin' classy!

You should remember WDA handing me my butt more than a couple times in WDA/30+ [GR] matches (the ol' TCZ ladder) when I was toting a MG, not-so-wisely.

Thanks I like it myself

Yea to bad TCZ has past on shame we had some fun times and some outstanding matchs!

I'm glad to see it does play a role in SP mode. LoL I've not played it yet, I'm hoping they can expand it role in MP as well.

[Support class and smokes O MY?]

Why do we even have a support class does anyone really play this class. Very rarley do I ever see it being played, and why would really, you have no nades a choice of 2 guns that can't hit a barn at 50 feet.. What's the point in having this class in GRAW2? What role does support really play? They can't act as a resupply for ammo nor are the guns that great so what's the point!

I've read on some of the mission before the game loads it says lay down deadly fire with heavy support, are you kidding me these guns suck! Bringing to bear what good does the class really do?

Why would you not pick a noob tube which comes with 2 tubes or assault which should have a flash nade! Instead of smoke! The hand nade is nice, but would be better with two hand nades or 1 nade and 1 flash. Smoke is really not that good choice seeing how the game is such an open format. These maps are not made for support class at all their is way to much open ground on most maps!

Will the next patch per say address these problems.... Really think about it a support class and that carrys no hand nades, but assault class has 1 and a smoke that let's everyone know "I'm OVER HERE SHOOT SEE MY SMOKE SHOOT ME PLEASE!"

I have no idea what support does in SP mode seeing how I've never played it in that format. Most games for single player that's for xbox 360's lol

[GRAW2 [Ladders ?]]

I wish we had TCZ back! The only some what of a ladder I know of right now is TWL . I'm sure a TWL votary can point you in the right place. Just goggle be easer.

Be warned read the rules first lol

[RvsA/ Spawn Camping Awareness Day?]

Wanna see a list?

Dude, I got video.

[GR] don't count!!!

I still <3 you too ruggy!!! Judas...

[cheaters still ruining games]

There will always be a cheater, you fix it, they find another, and same again....

Anyone seeing cheaters in properly run servers with good admin on board?

Yea one was in our server after a couple rounds people calling him a hack we tried to fraps him and watch him, then he disconnects, really you're missing the point thier is nothing in place to help prevent this from happing again or a list to consult to add to our server to stop him from coming back..

If you want to use the old every game has hacks cliche' most games have an anti-cheat that most servers can run a MBL/ server logging list too or set up to STREAM like with PsB... Thus we are lacking said product right now.

[cheaters still ruining games]

I'm so GLAD you posted, I have some as well this is getting out of hand needs to be sorted GRIN!! You should at least talk to PsB rep, So someone can get this under control, there needs to be a system in place so that hackers don't get away with this! This guy was nade spamming all over the place. Unlimited I count 9 in row at one time!

His real name is in the FIRST SS and he changes it to shingfd because he said he was going to fraps him!

This would not have not happend in days of old, but there gone now. What is being done to prevent this! Is anything?

As you can see by my SS this JACKAZZ was tking left and right over and over. Then changes names to shingfd, I hope you fraps him! I was trying till the ###### tked about 7 times!

Did he shrink your screen opti? I can't read any text on it.

lol click on the pics bro

[cheaters still ruining games]

I'm so GLAD you posted, I have some as well this is getting out of hand needs to be sorted GRIN!! You should at least talk to PsB rep, So someone can get this under control, there needs to be a system in place so that hackers don't get away with this! This guy was nade spamming all over the place. Unlimited I count 9 in row at one time!

His real name is in the FIRST SS and he changes it to shingfd because he said he was going to fraps him!

This would not have not happend in days of old, but there gone now. What is being done to prevent this! Is anything?

As you can see by my SS this JACKAZZ was tking left and right over and over. Then changes names to shingfd, I hope you fraps him! I was trying till the ###### tked about 7 times!

[TDM Spawn Killing]

BTW PLEASE some one make PollingCenter,Creekbed, and MBC maps! This is a must IF I any idea how to do it I would, I I' will offer to help thou I don't bring much to the table..

[TDM Spawn Killing]

Stalker' date='Aug 14 2007, 06:46 PM' post='487953']

No respawns, no spawn raping. Simple and effective.

Unless it's a match boring!

Maybe for battlefield junkies, but not for tdm fans. It's a blast. You CAMP before you round each corner.

As a question. How big are the spawns as they are not marked.

LOL BF junkie huh I'm 100% sure I've played [GR] as much or MORE than anyone or two combined please. Just because I have a background in both unlike you in which I enjoyed playing both unlike you lol. This is not the point at all, bro it's to promote the game to get the word out about Graw2 and how fun it is , no spawns your talking about a limited crowd. I'm talking about the big picture sure all the old clans like WDA,AFz,AOD,RS, and BSR etc etc. Love to play with no spawns but what about the guy that just got the game gets killed and waits think they will tell anyone else to buy it.... That was my line of thought. Wda has new members joining our clan via GRAW2 I've talked to them which I know it's not everyone OPINION, but most never played [GR] and didn't even know about it.

I've ask them about no spawns there reply is why? I said it's fun after I killed them they didn't think it was too fun lol Again this was my line of thought ROCO You judas!! Looking forward to see on GRAW2 buddy take care.

I think the respawns should be in random spots on your side of the map just speard out a little more.

Stalker' date='Aug 14 2007, 07:52 PM' post='487962']

Opti, I think you're looking at it the wrong way. Use the dead time to fix yourself a sandwich, a glass of your favorite beverage, and re-dose yourself with A.D.D. meds. If the time limit is 5-7 minutes and you don't rush around like a BF2'er on crack, you usually don't have to wait very long for the next round, if at all. If you have no respawns, guess what? No one else does either. The rounds are over quickly. If you truly can't stand to observe for a minute or two, I'm not sure GR is the right game for you (the collective "you", not necessarily you specifically Opti). Honestly, it seems like the 3-to-infinite respawn crowd is trying to turn this game into something it was never meant to be. As far as I know there are still BF2, BF2142, ETQW, and other servers out there where you can run around like a ###### blasting away at everything in sight with as many lives as you need to fill your kill quota. GR was always a slow paced game since the beginning and meant to be played carefully and deliberately, thus the "Recon" in the name. Otherwise just rename it "Ghost Melee" or "Ghost Respawn" or "CounterGhost Source" or "BattleGhost 2"...I got a million of 'em.

LOL nice one Stalker, but at 6'4" and 330 I don't need to eat anymore Also this is not GR everyone should stop trying to make it GR it's GRAW2 not GR2. Also you guys can knock bf2,2142, and ETQW's there still more ladders/lans/Money and gamers per game than this one why is that? Well coming from a background of both games I would say because so many of you guys WANT it to be GR and it's not. You want match play which was great I'm not knocking anyone for that but we were all younger then and it's was a very early time for gamming. Were all old farts not and kids today want to run and gun. We need to promote this game, get some ladders going on more then one place know what I mean . "NO COMMENTS"

You think the 3-to-inf respawn crowd now were labeling? I don't think it's them trying to change the game.. Looks to me the other way around.

I also read where someone said use teamwork, slow your roll and take your time. That's a great idea, but because the game has no VOIP, or in game commands, squad control people are very limited to know what the guys are doing on the right or left flank. Unless it is a clan on Vent or Ts know what I mean.... So to be a team game you need to talk to each other instead of stoping and typing. Plus we need a knife in the game to kill those damn snipers! I love to shank one in the back will he's locked in! lol

Recon An inspection or exploration of an area, especially one made to gather military information. Really hard to do with GRAW2 since it's a FPS

I'm just trying to show the other side of the coin bro nothing more. I have nothing but respect for most players here and have always enjoyed gamming in GR or BF2. Just try to see what I'm saying as I see your point as well.

[TDM Spawn Killing]

Stalker' date='Aug 14 2007, 06:46 PM' post='487953']

No respawns, no spawn raping. Simple and effective.

Unless it's a match boring!