Collector*AFZ*
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All of the above have had good points, but the point that you all are missing is that these guys don't have any choice in whether they are there or not. I live 10 minutes away from a Virginia National Guard base and the guys in the local unit were activated, they didn't choose to go. For the first time since WWII, this unit has been called up and put back into active federal service. None of them lost any rank, and truthfully, several of them have received promotions since being called up. The end result: 18-24 months over there whether you are full time, reserves, or national guard and being there deserves respect no matter what unit you come from. As far as those guys responsible for the screwups over there, that kinda stuff happens to the best trained soldiers. Stupidity can't be trained out of a person.
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That's funny, I don't care who ya are!!!
Get 'er done!!
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Don't know about famous now, but my great uncle, Monty Kennedy, pitched for the New York Giants from 1946 to 1953. He pitched in games 4 and 5 of the 1951 World Series against the New York Yankees, who went on to win the championship that year. He had the opportunity to play with the likes of Willie Mays, who was a rookie in 1951, Mickey Mantle, Joe Dimaggio (his last year was 1951) and several others who are legends.
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27 Books in New Testament
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66 books of the Bible
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39 books of the Old Testament
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8 tentacles on an octopus
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13 stripes on a United States Flag...
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He's one of the brothers. He keeps $2, plus his one third of the $3 ($1) for a total of $3. That plus the one dollar a piece to the other two brothers equals the $5.
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IIRC, Mamon is also in Graduate School at VT, not undergraduate, which makes it a bigger accomplishment. While I would rather have my degree from the Bohunk Matrimonial College than VT, it is still a rather impressive feat. Congrats!!!
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WAHOO WA!!! GO CAVS!!!!
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@ budgie: See, I knew we agreed with each other, just had to debate the fact first....lol
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@sync: I think we are done now...lol. You can close this up while the closings good...
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Gotcha Sync...
Agreed, it didn't need to be put online and add to the family's sorrow. It's not anything that anyone should ever have to see, or want to for that matter.
@budgie: Again, all valid points. No issue with the facts of the matter, only problems with the results. Its not "many" strict Muslems that turn to extremist. Only the few. And it is those few that are to blame for the violence that takes place. Our soldiers that are over there will tell you that for the most part, the people of Iraq are glad that we are there, and are happy to have us rebuild their infrastructure, hospitals, and schools. Its only the few (and that is relative to the numbers overall) who take their hate for us to the extreme. Those are the ones that should be tartgeted and removed. And if I recall, its not a member of the underclass that is leading Al-Queda, it is a member of one of these wealthy Saudi families. It is his family's money that helped finance the beginnings of Al-Queda and his contacts with other wealthy persons that keep it financed.
I agree with you about Isreal. If the Bush admin. would uphold it's promise to the Palestinian people to force Isreal to form a free Palestinian state, our position in the Islamic world would improve immediately. That is the basis of the anti-American sentiment in the middle east. Improve that situation by keeping your word to the world, and things would improve.
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I would imagine it was probably on the inside back cover right under the add for viagra. (read: well hidden inside).
@budgie: I think the last part of your post supports my point. Of course we have interfered with things in the middle east. Our whole way of life revolves around those resources that are owned by those countries. The only "propping up" that I am aware of is that of Isreal, and without us they would have been over ran decades ago. So now, these militants take up the call to arms based on their shared religion with the oppressed Palistinian state and they decide that they can fight the fight however they want, where ever they want. We haven't declared war on Islam, or those that practice it. We never declared war on the Palistinians, the Iraqis, the Iranians. We as a nation have never until now targeted even those whose beliefs run to the extreme, and do so now only grudgingly.
Do we have interest in the politics of the Middle East? Of course we do, and until every American drives an electric car we will continue to do so. Just read the front page: National gas price average breaks $2.00 per gallon for first time. Every industrialized nation in the world has an interest in Middle Eastern affairs. As far as draining Arab-owned resources, it is my understanding that we still buy those resources. We are not stealing oil from them. Those that control the oil are very well compensated for their natural resources (read as I know that the wealth is not spread among the people, but that is not our fault either). Groups like Al-Queda are opportunists, and will take up whatever battle flag needs to be flown for them to create unrest, whether it is truly their battle or not.
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It's not about what's right, it never has been. It's about what's fact. The facts are that on 9/11, 3000+ people died because the United States' political stances are not in alignment with their religious beliefs. 3000+ people died because the bad guys disagreed with political and religious philosophy. What makes it bad is that they can claim that their religion allows them to conduct these operations and people actually want to make excuses for them. Don't get me wrong, those prisoners in those prisons didn't deserve what has transpired, but I do find it hard to believe that the abuse was that widespread and nobody in the military or American intelligence was behind it. But in no way does that give a radical group the right to do to an innocent person what they did to that guy. There is no excuse ever invented which gives them the right to do that. It just shows that they are as big a bunch of cowards as can be found in the world today. You want to take on the U.S. and claim Jihad, then bring it. Our soldiers do their duty every day. They are trained for it. Innocent civilians are not and should not become targets for their holy war. If their god is on their side, move it out into the desert and lets get it on. Otherwise, go get in your hole and suck it up. No sense killing innocents, whether Iraqi, American, Brits, or otherwise.
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Have to agree with Dilligas on this one, there is a reason why all of this made the world headlines. There is a method to the madness, and someone is pulling the strings. Who that is, who knows? Everyone here has made some good points about both sides of the issue, but let's face facts. Nothing's changed about the way our military (meaning the world's military) does business, the only difference is this time we get to see it up close and personal. My question to you guys is, do you really think that this is the first time that people have been embarrassed, humiliated, tortured, etc. to get the information that they were looking for? Get real. Ask any of your brothers in arms out there that have served overseas during conflict and they will be the first ones to tell you that what you see on tv and what you read in the papers is not even close to what really happens.
As far as the behavior of the U.S. soldiers in those prisons, I find it hard to believe that the U.S. military took all of the jerkoffs that they could find in uniform and put them in charge of those prisoners. I find it hard to believe that those things went on and there was not one, not one, responsible person in uniform who tried to stop it. Unbelievable that this kind of behavior would take place and no officers would try and stop it. It just doesn't add up. Even in our prisons here, there is always the do-gooder who will actually take their jobs serious enough to do their job, even if it means hanging other officers out to dry. Doesn't anyone look at this and say, "something just ain't right?"
As far as the murder of Mr. Berg, it only serves to show that we are not dealing with normal people. These are religious fanatics whose reason to commit atrocities they can support by claiming holy war. The allies in the fight against terrorism need to quit talking the good fight and start fighting it. I for one have not forgotten the pictures from 9/11 and don't know that I ever will. It sure is funny that the media doesn't run those pictures any more. I believe that they should be ran everyday, keep those images fresh, so that when the world looses track of why we do what we do, they have a reference guide. 3,000+ dead in minutes...keep that in your minds when you have a problem with something our forces do over there...
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Yeah, VCU football is almost as good as Longwood's football program...lol
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We are really starting to put together a top-notch team and we are looking forward to some good battles in the future. If you want to be a part of a group with a real "team" atmosphere, stop by our website and drop Roco a line.
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My DSL modem has built in router functions, as well as firewall functions. In order to host, I have to open the appropriate ports to let the others in...you might want to take a look at your modem directions/support and check that...
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I have done my duty and added to the legend that is: SILENT NIGHT!!!
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Dig the Sig Lexis..!
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What do you guys think of my new sig? Thanks again to SilentNight for his creativity!!
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I have to give Modder his props. This is a pretty killer mission with a few unexpected surprises.
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I think you took that statement the wrong way and are trying to use it as fuel for another fire. By saying that these guys have no choice in whether they go or not was meant to explain why you have guys that are NG or Reserves over there doing jobs that they haven't been trained for or are not as highly trained as full time military. OF COURSE THEY AREN"T!!! These guys are nine to fivers who work on tanks for a living, or fuel trucks, or work in motor pools on their local bases. The do their drill and their summer camp and keep on keeping on. Now, because they are called to active service (and none of them from here balked at going) they are in Iraq and are doing what they are told to do just like any other soldier. For you or any one else to belittle what they are doing because they are NG or Reserves is crazy. They are there in the middle of it all, just like the full time military units are.