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I don't mind playing as the leader os a single fireteam as long as we are part of a larger platoon and not a four-man army. I want to get orders from squad and platoon leaders and then execute them in the manner I see fit so that my team contributes to the larger force in a meaningful way. But if it's just the four of us out there in scripted, tailored missions, there's not much point - it's been done by everyone and his dog anyway: GR (2), H&D, SOCOM, SEALTeam (1993!!!), Conflict Desert Storm, SPECOPS and whatever, the list goes on. Give us something new!

But lawyer jokes are cool right? How do you stop a lawyer from drowning? Take your foot off his head. How many lawyers does it take to pave a driveway? Depends how thin you slice them.

For the Army, it looks like they took the three colors most common to both woodland and desert and slapped them together. Thing is it's too dark to work in the desert all that well - maybe rocky scrub. In the woods it would do alright but then practically any combination of earthy greens and browns will do that. Again I think they should have at least a separate digital pattern for the desert. As for the Airforce - I guess they had it designed by Stevie Wonder or something.

Naah I don't believe the SBS would bother disguising themselves as regular Marines - at least not to teh extent they'd ditch their M4s. I'd say Avey has hit the nail on the head.

"You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' But I say to you, Do not resist one who is evil. But if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also; and if any one would sue you and take your coat, let him have your cloak as well; and if any one forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to him who begs from you, and do not refuse him who would borrow from you. You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you

Absolute Classic Kewl - can I have a link to more? There's no point blaming a whole religion for the acts of terrorists. IMO the best way to avoid trouble is to leave other people aone. I'm not saying turn the other cheek, but there is no point in picking a fight where there is no need for one. When the terrorists strike, we should strike back and strike hard. But by invading Iraq unwanted and unsanctioned by the international community, the coalistion stirred up a hornet's nest. While the actions of terrorists these days are dispicable, our leaders must shoulder at least some

I agree wholeheartedly. A game can't have too much of the boredom between shots and it cannot simulate (tastefully) the suffering of battle. However in GR we seemed to have more so-called realism than what we've seen so far from GR2: Special forces teams might operate in 4 man teams but a single team is probably a little light for the intensity of action that the GR2 video showed. Stealth won't be a solution either, I'd wager: I saw a lot of action packed, scripted scenes in tehre and the game looks designed to be a run-and-gunner. Two or more teams would be better if the battlefield is

SBS guys got caught skulking around perhaps? In any case what Iran dreads more than anything is the war spilling over into their country and their own regime getting toppled. They'll hand them back son.

I agree Fusaki - tactically it doesn't make sense to stir up anger and make more enemies. Hearts and Minds can win a war as effectively as bullets and bombs, but will leave a lot more people standing.

Now the airforce is jumping on the bandwagon with an Ugly Blue Tigerstripe. Personally I think they should use a digital to keep in line with the others, but develop their own pattern and shades.

That just never gets tired

Okay Soldier you're new here so I'm saying this for your own good. Aside from the forum rules, which we're all stretching just by discussing this, there are protocols and there is etiquette as well. Before accusing anyone of having any political bent or opinion, ask us what we think. Don't put words in our mouth. I promise you'll get an honest answer or at the very least a 'no comment'. There's no need to take a poll, but I'd be willing to bet that everyone here supports the effort in Afghanistan. I know I do. Discussing Iraq opens a can of worms in many ways because there are people

Sorry guys, I'm a late comer to the thread. These maps look awesome! IMO the far cry engine would suit GR just fine. Are you actually going to try and replicate the missions and gameplay of the SP experience?

Well put Kwel. When fighting a war against a certain tactic, what good does it do to employ the same tactic? We can say'fight fire with fire' all we like but then fire still exists right? Fighting terror with terror will have the same result.

Thera are funny one's in NZ but because of their long and tongue-tied Maori names: Whakawerawera Whongamomona Whangapaoroa Papatoetoe Matamata Maungaturoto Maungatepere Kawakawa Otorahanga Eketahuna Ngaruwahia Punakaiki Omarama Kaitangata and... ...Clinton The funny thing is these sound nice when pronounced properly (phonetics in Maori are similar to Japanese: very simple). But when whitey tries them on we always mess it up and the resluts can be amusing.

It ain't funny and we didn't forget. "Well they're terrorist scumbag (allegedly) and if they do that sort of thing to us we should not treat them humanely." I suppose anyone who doesn't get that is missing some kind of 'big picture'? Here's the big picture: we're better than them and the GC proves it. Should the need for revenge trump the Geneva Convention. Should even the immediate needs of intelligence officials? Troops in the field? We remember these acts and the Convention stands as a binding contract that civilised nations have entered not to sink to that level. Now if say as

Look, when you get angry with the enemy it is easy to argue that the rules can be broken - especially when the enemy do the same. However in the long run the erosion of laws will do more harm than good. Broken Record Alert: The more the US follows the rules, the better the chance that its own POWs will be treated well. When we condone torture against our enemies, we invite them - all of them present ad future - to do the same to us. Yes the al Qaeda treat prisoners inhumanely (most of those Baathist and Shiite insurgents treated their prisoners well). The angry mobs in Mogadishu and

They were talking about the cleaning bills

I recall seeing so many m16 variants in books, games, shows and sites I've seen, more or less chronologically Early days: AR10 orginal Stoner design in 7.62mm prototype with Wooden furniture AR15, 5.56 version with plastic parts Vietnam: M16, Army designation of above. The name AR15 seems to have been carried over to civilian models however M16A1, improved for jungle warfare with new flash suppressor and plunger on the side to help cleaning XM177E1 first shorty with collapsible stock XM177E2 same but with that extra long flash hider M653/655 Someone help me here - th

Does it have neat features like voices for the actors and stuff the war GR does? The impression I have is of a deep, immersive, but rather dry simulation. I will play it and enjoy it as a game, so I'd like to see some game-like features.

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Sure we need to support the troops. Everyone here does. Even that phantom menace, the 'liberal media'. So far nobody has blamed the average GI in boots for this, so who's not supporting the troops? Supporting them doesn't mean ignoring it when a few of the troops screw up. Nor does it mean not questioning whether the powers above them have decided to abandon the constitution and the Geneva convention. the Geneva convention applies to occupiers and occupied alike, even foreign fighters and insurgents have provisions. Congress ratified the treaty and the Defense Dept. does not have the

Yeah 50 meters sounds more like it. I think you guys use metrics to keep up with everyone else - something about having to use foreign maps and measurements so often.

Yeah I read somewhere (maybe official site?) that MARPAT was optimized for 50 meters. Or was it 50 feet? I also read that the pixels have a greater chance of distorting the wearer's outline so it's hard for a shooter to determine where the man stops and the trees start. I didn't know that the pixels reduce night vision sig as well. But it stands to reason since in the 70s the US experimented with that night camo with squares to fool NV until they realized they were unlikely to fight anyone who actually had significant NV capability. But I think the new pattern looks fine (in photos w

Apparently only available in US thru one distributor. Don't know if they distribute to civilians or private owners. Anyone else can buy it thru the online store. No off the shelf versions. I sure wish they'd release it as an off-the-shelf game at a reasonable price. The TacSim world would swallow it up. There'd be no more need for action-themed military shooters; they'd all be relegated to console gamers.