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I think the achievement points for GRAW are messed up! stuff like world champion just shouldnt be in there because hardly any people will get it and even if you did you get measly points for it. theres too many achievements and not enough points to go round for each one. could smeone from RSE explain why 1-3 only gets 2 points? its bugging me. thanks

i moved from pc to 360. i dont think 360 gr feels more like old gr but i just find it is more fun and more polished than the pc version of GRAW, and for a start it runs 100 times better!

Did anyone else have any issues online with GRAW last night? I kept getting gropped from games and errors like "arbitaration failed" which i hadnt seen before, only managed to get a few games in, wasnt my connection as perfect dark worked fine.

whats wrong with civics? the new civic is brilliant

you can still play with your friends without DLC but the ones without DLC will have to host.

but the original poster is right, the price of the DLC is 25% cost of the original game, yet you get maybe 5-10% worth of content compared to the original game. i like the new DLC but noone can deny that it is overpriced and i think they only got away with it this time because summer is a quiet time for games and there isnt much in the way of anticipated titles coming out and there isnt much other DLC available either. In future they will have to drop the price somewhat or make sure there is more content in the game to bein with otherwise a lot of people will just say no thanks and go buy gears of war, halo3 , forza 2, GTA4, sonic etc etc instead. and NYR is right think of the pc gamers that got given a completely unfinished game with 5 maps and one game mode and ###### poor peformance on most systems. yes they will get more stuff added for free but i suspect by the time the updating has finished the PC version will still be inferior to the 360 version in terms of content and completion. and it is an aggressive strategy by ubi, they know there are many people (like me and my 3 friends that own 360 graw) that will probably end up feeling forced into buying chapter 2 just because so many of the people hosting larger games have it and ther arent enough quality places to play with chapter 1. EDIT For the purpose of comparrison Perfect dark zero got 4 new maps and bots added for 500 points, i think this was a much better deal in terms of cost because yes GRAW got relit maps and new character heads (lol) but the relit maps really dont warrant doubling the price by themselves, yes they are really cool to play but the production costs werent great enough to warrant that much of a price increase. if the DLC had some new SP stuff in it then id say it was a fair price to pay.

i think its a problem with live in general, i have the same issue with Perfect dark, regular kicking/dropping and when you search for a game but dont joib you have to go through the whole process of searching again, nowhere near as good as a PC. They could make it a lot easier.

i agree that some of the stuff on marketplace is quite expensive but it is worth it. on the other hand think of GRAW PC owners who got given a half complete game to start with, at least the 360 version was more or less done, anything else is a bonus. hopefully prices will start to go down toward the end of the year.

hell yes random insertions has to be in there

i agree with ya logos but i feel that when reviewing a game there are certain things that a game has to have nowadays, and in SP GRAW hits what it needs to get a good review but in MP there are minimum requirements for it to be considered good such as more than 1 game mode, kicking/banning issues etc etc

the game is a work in progress and i dont get how the reviewers gave it such high scores, probably a mixture of anticipation and because the 360 version was so good, dont get me wrong the SP is a decent game and enjoyable but the Co-op and MP is poor. The most honest review i have seen is the gamespot one. SP Id give 8/10 but because the rest is a shambles and because of the graphics/optimization issues the game could only ever get a 6.5/10 for me as it is, hopefully the patch will improve that. anyone know if the charts take into account refunds? i.e if a copy gets taken back does it deduct one from the weekly total?

yeah ram only makes a real difference if you already have a high end video card. i ditched the idea of upgrading my pc for GRAW, bought a new golf bag and a new 17" TFT screen instead. Happy days. As chiles4 says even if you do you will probably only get a 20fps increase which isnt awe inspiring. If GRAW becomes properly playable on mid range systems then good good i'll buy it but i got tired of waiting for a patch to fix very basic things that make a FPS (kicking/banning,co op issues and lack of MP)

fair enough but i think he is pretty lucky to be getting that, GRAW doesnt even support 512MB RAM, 1GB is the minimum.

acid can you please warn me before you post an ignorant post again, thanks. yep lightspeed its probably why we wont get them, you would just need too much power. pap6 i think you are right there will always be some people that want it to fail, but i saw the screenshots and i thought this looks like its gonna be a good game, everything was going well. then they said no AA and upped the system specs at the last minute. i bought my current card about 8 months ago to play GRAW when it was penciled in for release, cost me about £130, now i have a game i cant play at a realistic frame rate, i think on the system specs issue people complaints are justified. it would be stupid for the game to fail because of this but as i said previously 2 of my mates took GRAW back cos it ran so badly on the average system. plus people with acid's attitude make things worse, and make people complain more, it seems like there is a set of people on here (allbeit small) that think everyone has high end rigs and that all of our money should be put into gaming but its not gonna happen. lastly in viipers fps thread a large proportion are getting between 20 and 40, its not good enough for a first person shooter because it DOES affect gameplay in MP specifically badly

1024x768 @ 60hz (native res, 800 is so ugly it affects gameplay) 20-30FPS Average FPS: 23 PNY Nvidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB AGP AMD 64 3200+ 939 2GB DDR PC3200 RAM all settings at low, texture managed settings to true

try video drivers first

1) ditch gamespy it is useless i cant believe it is the only option for us to use...we need direct ip/ase! 2) more people in co-op - 8 3) more maps - [GR] remakes would be nice, some outdoor ones 4) a way for clients to download custom maps from the server without having to leave the game a la HL2 5) better admin functionallity a la HL2 6) more MP modes, LMS and HH are definately needed. 7) better way to communicate in game, the chatbox is annoying 8) more iff options 9) sort out the problem where by if the leader dies the mission ends in co-op. thanks for reading GRIN Dr Hanke

amen

not in priority: 1) indoor fighting 2) better way to communicate in game, the chatbox is annoying 3) fix the big bugs 4) optimize the engine/give us more options to make it run smoother on non high end systems. HDR isnt nice as it stands. 5) more MP modes like HH and LMS 6) maps outside of mexico city, maybe some remakes of [GR] favourites 7) more admin options like kick/ban 8) useable weapon implacements 9) direct IP support/ASE support - this is a basic requirement for every FPS game nowadays and for the past 5 years, why only gayspy? its just asking for trouble. this shouldnt be an option its a neccessity. 10) have option to get rid of repetive intros 11) sort out the problem where by if the leader dies the mission ends in co-op. 12) more IFF options 13) more than 4 people in co-op, 8 would be better 14) an sdk

you are wrong. firstly: http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html this data is only one month old. secondly: i have 3 friends that own a PC for gaming, 2 have dells and one have a custom built. 2 have 6600's and one has a 6800. none of them have 2 GB RAM. One has 512 and 2 have 1GB. 1 of them has GR3 the other 2 didnt buy it because of the system requirements and negative feedback. thirdly: The people that post on GR forums are the minority, and within that those that are PC hardware enthusiasts are even smaller. im not denying the fact our systems arent new, i know theyre not, but they arent ancient either and when your system can run all other games (new an old) fine then you have to start asking questions. lastly GRAW doesnt look that impressive to warrant the high system requirements, thats what bugs me the most. and i agree with tango victor

i understand that and its a good game, but i have the 360 version which satisfies my SP needs. I was just really looking forward to the MP side of things. Once you have completed SP thats it, MP is where the longetivity is

hehe but i bet you can play all your other games at medium/high? scalabilty is the key to the pc's survival in the gaming world

i think you come from the camp of a minority of people that will overhaul their PC for one game and have a high end rig. the majority dont have a setup like yours and thus its nowhere near as impressive, so for people like me (and theres a lot) HL2 looks and performs much better. im sure GRAW looks great on your pc even without AA but most of us will never own a system like to see it ourselves. id be interested to see some screenshots

im not buying yet because i want to see if the current issues are fixed with this super patch because its only worth playing at a decent frame rate and as a finished game, not a beta and to do that ill have to upgrade....which i wont do if the game stays in its current state.

not being funny but i dont think your 7800GS is 3 years old, and a high end 256MB video card is what makes the difference. if you have a 6600 you weep, like me and pray they optimize this clunky, inefficient and noisy diesel engine just like honda did