[Would you pay for an official GR:AW 2 map pack?]

3) Nope. This game should have released with all maps available in MP. Also, considering the current activity levels in MPer I see no reason to spend any more cash on this game. I really like the game too.

[Graw 2 League in CAL?]

Any word on this... I guess not... ?

Considering that RVS, a 4 year old game, has more teams and activity on TWL than GRAW2, I doubt that CAL would support it. Sad, I think GR2 is 100% better than RVS and one of the best FPS's on the market but for some reason the majority of gamers don't like it or won't ladder it.

[Talk is cheap, let's make it happen]

We would participate in meetings, rule committees or whatever is needed to help give this game some energy and increase activity levels. We currently do not have a server but do have a website and can host the Tourney format if needed.

Roco's suggestion on starting with TDM and then advancing to Siege and or HH would keep it interesting and hopefully encourage more of the community to participate.

When and where do we meet to get this kicking?

[Graw 2 is a Great Game]

rocoafz - the method you speak of must have been the slowest way ever to get a match.

did u get a match once every 2 or 3 days?

you know without wanting to take a dig at any ladder or anything like that, the reality was the number of matches that were obtained using the IGS method meant that in say a 3 month cycle a Clan and individual players in that Clan would have competed in a match up to and indeed over 200 times.

on the flipside, a Clan where you have to book a match and play once every couple of days - means you end up only playing 50 times or so.

it was no surprise then that most of the IGS Clans were accused of cheating when they shifted to TWL and other Leagues - my clan was banned after only a few sessions. Those Leagues just couldnt understand how their best Clans could get raped so easily every single match. the fact is, they only had 25% the level of experience.

now why do i raise this point?

bcoz a system whereby you have to pm a forum to book a match is ridiculous and antiquidated - this is 2007 - you should be able to hook up matches as quickly as another clan is looking for a match.

and how do you do that - with pregame browser chat rooms - where you can see and talk to and book a match live.

GRAW2 has gone back a decade in its current format......

Actually it wasn't. If a Clan's server had peeps on, they would match. Simple as that. You could do tons of pickup ladder matching because every clan wanted to match. When you finished one, you just went to another. There were also scheduled ladders. (Who said TCZ and such had just one ladder)

I have probably about 1000 GR1 matches under my belt (at least) and only because we were late getting into the rumble.

GRAW 2 could be like this also... but there is only 1 Site hosting it which for North America only has 2 ladders.

I think GRAW2 needs a tournament. That might gather some interest.

Excellent idea!

I'd be willing to help organize or were you thinking of a sponsor such as TWL?