Practice Ammo in Real World Military Posted January 5, 2006 Blasphemy! You should be hung for not having a .22! Run immediately to the nearest gun store and buy the first used 10/22 you see! Speer has quit selling the old 200gr 'flying ashtray' in +P form (unless you're refering to the Gold Dot). You can still get it in the Blazer line, but only loaded to 950fps. Slow. I'm planning on using it myself, but only in home brewed stuff. Makes me more than a little ticked off that no one loads it hotter. Now, if you want some really hot .45 ammo, check out Double Tap http://doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/index.php He has one load that he says is just below +P rating but pushes a 200gr Gold Dot to 1100fps out a 5" 1911 barrel. Sounds good and McNett (owner) isn't one to exagerate.