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Evidently, they botched the sacrifice. LOL ! !
Even the alien Gods threw her back ! !
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@ Logos. Noone said anything about visual quality. that's what Videocards are for. We are talking about an add-in card for physics. someone here earlier said something about the videos showing what the card is capable of.
But what I've seen, the card isn't worth the extra cost. those videos were of a game being played in real time. The videos are for showing how the physics card works. to be honest, todays processors and games have HAVOC capabilities which do not require an extra cost add-in card. I don't see too many developers jumping on with AGEIA's technology except a few.
Now..would I forgo the extra $100-$300 bucks for such a card? no, why have a card put in my machine if it hasn't gained atleast a moderate acceptance from the game companies. That right there's the main hangup about this AGEIA Physx card.
If AGEIA were to get some overall acceptance such as, game firms using it in thier development or motherboard manufacturers adding AGEIA physics into chipsets, then I'd be happy to affirm that yes AGEIA is worth the time. but giving up a PCI slot to beat out the johnsons to be the first with AGEIA's card...no. Kinda like how Winxp was exciting at first and pretty to look at, but then over time was a bore.
Agreed.
And by the time the developers are all on board, we won't be looking at 300.00 for a card, we'll probably be looking at half that. Not to mention that by then, most of the bugs should be worked out if it.
And even if it is still 300.00 by the time that all the developers are onboard with it, then it will be worth it, because it won't only apply to one or two games.
300.00 right now is just better spent on a graphics card and RAM. Even a dual core processor.
@Spector agreed. But why not do things this way. since we aren't but "just" tapping dual cores, why not thread the physics through the second core? core 1 will do the game and core 2 will process the physics. I like to keep my slots free which lowers the overall bandwidth saturation on the PCI bus. during game installs it can determine how many cores you have then install the game to thread the physics through the second core? just a thought.
Excellent idea, and it would also lower heat and increase airflow, not to mention save us all a small fortune.
We ought to start running some of these companies, and re-introduce common sense to the PC world.
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You're already there, bro.
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@ Logos. Noone said anything about visual quality. that's what Videocards are for. We are talking about an add-in card for physics. someone here earlier said something about the videos showing what the card is capable of.
But what I've seen, the card isn't worth the extra cost. those videos were of a game being played in real time. The videos are for showing how the physics card works. to be honest, todays processors and games have HAVOC capabilities which do not require an extra cost add-in card. I don't see too many developers jumping on with AGEIA's technology except a few.
Now..would I forgo the extra $100-$300 bucks for such a card? no, why have a card put in my machine if it hasn't gained atleast a moderate acceptance from the game companies. That right there's the main hangup about this AGEIA Physx card.
If AGEIA were to get some overall acceptance such as, game firms using it in thier development or motherboard manufacturers adding AGEIA physics into chipsets, then I'd be happy to affirm that yes AGEIA is worth the time. but giving up a PCI slot to beat out the johnsons to be the first with AGEIA's card...no. Kinda like how Winxp was exciting at first and pretty to look at, but then over time was a bore.
Agreed.
And by the time the developers are all on board, we won't be looking at 300.00 for a card, we'll probably be looking at half that. Not to mention that by then, most of the bugs should be worked out if it.
And even if it is still 300.00 by the time that all the developers are onboard with it, then it will be worth it, because it won't only apply to one or two games.
300.00 right now is just better spent on a graphics card and RAM. Even a dual core processor.
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The point of that video was not to demonstrate realism, it was to demonstrate the abilities of the card. Is it impressive that it can do all of that calculating? IMHO yes. As you say shooting a crate probably wouldnt really do all that much to it. So it wouldnt really do for them to make a video of them shooting a crate in a realistic environment. Like I say, it was simply intended as a demonstration.
Additionally, if I buy one of these cards next month, and three months from now its out of date, sure I will be unhappy that I have to buy another one. On the other hand I would be tremendously pleased because that would mean there were games with stunning physics.
Depending on how many developers are actually ready to jump on the technology, that is....
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Prepare to die Spectre, Glorified Zealot of the Anti Microsoft World, i am unleashing... BILL GATES...
DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNN....
Please do ! !
I would give my eye teeth to get 30 minutes alone with that guy ! !
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I think the whole point of these physics cards is that they DO render realistically, taking gravity and momentum into the equation. I dare say the movies that have been released so far are quite early attempts at this new technology, so I wouldn't be knocking it this early.
True. But seeing what it is right now, I sure as heck wouldn't be running out to spend 200-300.00 dollars on it right now either.
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I watched the videos and am Not impressed. A pistol cannot throw a crate unless 1) it's made of balsa wood and 2)it's being shot on the moon, but even then I have my doubts as to it reacting to being shot as such.
in the next video, I watched a plane being shot. now how are the panels going to go flying when shot? that was stupid. Physics will not and cannot evolve until they incorporate gravity. besides one or two shots will not knock an airplanes panel off. you might dent or put holes in the panels..
don't look to me to buy this AEGIA card.
Ditto.
Looking cool is just not near enough. especially when it is so UNREALISTIC.
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meh, ...
Then on Sunday, 12 February 2006. this..
:'(US Vice-President Dick Cheney has accidentally shot and injured a man during a quail hunting trip.THAT is kind of a weird coincidence. Then look at her sig and avatar!
She is a WITCH I’m telling you!
Don't be messin' with Janie, OR ELSE ! ! !
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I'd change my vote now that Charlize is added.
1) Charlize Theron - Aeon Flux (Great Flick)
2) Catherine Zeta-Jones (The Welsh Beauty. God, she is so wasted on Michael Douglas)
3) Keira Knightley. (First saw her in King Arthur.)
4) Kate Beckinsale. (The Underworld babe.)
5) Angelina. (The only Lara.)
The other 4 I could take or leave.
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Alot depends on your surfing habits also.
It's like I said before, a little common sense goes a long way.
If you feel that you just have to have a firewall, skip the Winblows firewall and go with Zone Alarm. THe Winblows Firewall is a joke, and a pain.
But if you don't do alot of questionable surfing, and your careful about what email you open, then you just won't need the additional stuff.
Heck, I do some questionable surfing, but I am extremely careful with my email, and like I said, I don't run AV or an additional firewall, and never have. No one here at the house does.
It all depends on what you do with the internet.
The biggest threat these days isn't really viruses, not for folks like us, but spyware, which can be taken care of in very short order by using Firefox or Opera, and running SpywareBlaster, Spybot S&D, and AdAwareSE.
Other than that, unless you're constantly at crack and warez sites and do alot of pron surfing, you should be fine with the router.
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If you have a router with NAT, skip the firewalls, you don't need them.
As for the AV, Rocky has some good advice there, but what I would do is not even load it.
Just use the router and see if you have any issues, as AV uses resources, and can potentially cause issues with adding programs and other software issues.
I haven't run a firewall or AV for years. Just a router with NAT, and most routers have a firewall available on top of that, if you feel the need for one.
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DirectX also has all kind of sound and networking libraries built in that can be used. However, if you are looking for cross platform portability, OpenGL is the way to go.
Specter - come on man! Supporting DirectX! What about Linux!?
Supporting DirectX?! Not in this life, and you should know better, man ! !
Like I said, it's not my world, man. I'm just living in it.
If we want to play games, for right now, we are stuck with Winblows. No getting around it...YET.
But with the strides Linux is making now, it won't be long ! !
I can see right now, that by letting up on Colin and his love for all things Microsoft, that my reputation is now in question.
I should have to remedy that straight away.
Sigh. You guys are killing me here.
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I'm not a hater of sound cards either. Far from it.
But to me, and for people on a budget, it simply boils down to priorities.
Important stuff that makes a real difference first, stuff like this second.
That's all.
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The Chill Surrounding the Promise of Snow by Alex Hephaestion.
The guy does some incredible mixes, and they are totally and legally free.
And Pink Floyd: The Delicate Sound of Thunder.
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werd!
Gawd its like they got their media relations training by a group of politicians or something. Every answer to a yes or no question was responded to by some ridiculously vague non-answer.
ARGH!
If I had my way it wouldn't be a silly freaking "interview" but an interrogation instead!
Under a hot, bright lamp with some properly administered truth serum.
You have to remember too, that GRIN probably didn't get to decide what they could answer, or how. Ubi decides that for them, being the publisher, and Ubi has always been about limited info, guys. Don't be too hard on the GRIN guys. Their hands are probably tied prettty tight when it comes to what they can and can't answer, per the publishers wishes.
And since 360 is supposed to release first, Ubi is probably handcuffing info on the PC version, so as not to overshadow the new console game.
Just my opinion though, knowing a bit about how Ubi works.
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I've read pages and pages of text online concerning this question, and I'm no nearer an answer.
When given a choice between DirectX and OpenGL, which should I be opting for, and why?
I don't suppose you are developing a game, otherwise you'd know the answer to your question.
Basically, use OpenGL for any game based on game engines created by id.
Use DirectX for pretty much everything else.
Direct3D is the hot stuff, and has been for awhile.Can't believe this statement is coming from one of our top resident anit-M$ forum members.
I know, I know.
But....
I'm not a developer. Like all of you, I'm stuck riding the train someone else is driving.
And the term is Anti-MS ZEALOT ! !
I'll tell Dannik on you if you keep flaming me by calling me anything but the gr.net ZEALOT ! !
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I could give a rats ass less, I don't use Microsoft office. I use openoffice2.0. it's better and opens MSoffice documents and best of all it's free!
HOOYAH ! ! !
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My comments and guesses are in blue.
if i were to get an ageia physics card for GRAW,1. would it really change the experience enough that it would be worth the money
Chances are, right now, it wouldn't be that much. Not with software carrying most of the load for now.
2. how much does it really cost?
They say 250-300.00USD, form what I heard.
3. what are the downfalls of buying the first type of a new card
Too numerous to actually list. Go back aways and remeber the Voodoo cards, and the Monster3D Accelerators. What a pain before they were out a year.
4. how would i install it
Plugging it in woulod be fairly easy, like installing a video card. Drivers on the otherhand and chipset compatability could be major issues.
5. and would this cost me more money?
Most certainly alot more money, since it's been stated tht it won't be flashable or upgradeable, only replaceable with the next revision. So potentially, you could be looking at a new one every 6 months or so, depending on how fast software developers jump onboard, and innovations.
Something like this, it would definitely be in your best interest, especially if you aren't made of money, to wait till it's been out 6 months, and check reviews of performance, bugs, etc.
just a few questions i never could get a straight up answer for...
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I'm not a flamer, I'm a ZEALOT ! !
Dannik said so ! !
And help? Who want's to help a bunch of n00bs and Canucks?!
Flaming? Where? I don't see no stinking FLAMING ! !
You bunch of n00bs ! !
Why Flame Wars Get Started
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See post #45.
They will be fur coats before they ever touch down.
