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Posts posted by REC0N
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The Multiplayer part, is the big issue whit GRAW. We need more options basacly. I'm talking co-op here.
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GR was pretty linear to, sure you could walk around the forrest but you still knew you had to take out those tangos at the bridge before you could move on.
Yes in some maps.. but nothing much compared to games at that time and even to some games today. And remember the game is about 5 years old.
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But why all this GRIN is god??
sorry did someone say GRIN is god

seems no one is alloud to be the slightest bit positive with out being slated.

Hehe

But all I hear is "I beleive that Grin.." .. you might just say "I believe in GRIN".

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I dont think anyone is trying to say Grin is god or even that Grin is great. The point you are missing is that the game isnt as bad as some people are making it out to be and with a few updates and some community support a few of us think this game will be heads and shoulders above the original GR. It has all of the parts to succeed: Tactical gameplay (with some tweaks to guns and 1 shot 1 kill) Large maps, great effects, decent AI and if we get our mod support all will be good.
Yes here we go again.. the game is good.. BUT you are all saying it needs some modders work.. can you see the ironi?

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IMO, many Ghost Recon fans have waited soooo long for a new game that they have built this "uber-game" in their mind, and when GRAW came out and didn't meet the expectations, it's all of a sudden AWEFUL!!
I think the game is good, flaws and all. No, I do not accept the flaws, but I trust that GRIN will be hard at work fixing them. (I believe they have made this game their "baby")

There are both good things and bad things, SP and MP alike, but overall I think it's an excellent game. It seems to me that GRIN has worked like crazy to make the SP mode awesome, and I think it blows [GR] away on all levels. (Yes, I've completed [GR] SP, like many of you, time and time again)
It seems that the MP was put on the backburner to me. I think that now the game is released with a more-than-solid SP game, that GRIN will devote their time to making the MP equally kick-@$$! Maybe I will be proven wrong, but I doubt it.
Flame me if you want for being a "fanboy" but it would be better if you flamed me for being a "enjoying the game the way it is now, and looking forward to the improvements I believe GRIN will make"

Face the facts, the game isnt all that good and it isnt all that bad either, we know that, and we know you know it.


But why all this GRIN is god??
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Thanks for your support, Newman, Recluse, RuTHlezz, Trident and Logos, glad not be a lonely voice in the desert.
Trident-za, you are right, the mp and mod situation needs to be sorted. As with every PC game of its era, GR1's roots are in single-player gaming, as this was the only available mode for most people until about five years ago when broadband was adopted widely enough for multiplayer to become big business. Since then, many games have been built for mp, like the BATTLEFIELD series, but just as CSS's roots are in HALF-LIFE sp and SPLINTER CELL'S superb S vs M mp concept was launched only when the sp game took off, GR's longevity as an mp game can be traced back to very solid sp concept and execution. The sp game is the laboratory, the engine, and GRAW's is a Ferrari. Sometimes, an innovative concept needs to be executed in sp first just to acclimatise the audience to the game's unique or challenging gameplay qualities; it's impossible to imagine SWAT or the BROTHERS IN ARMS series (which I love) as having either a commercially successful or a creatively exciting mp concept without having proven itself in sp first. That's why we have to let the devs give priority to their Domination mode and support it as best we can; if we refuse to allow people the freedom to innovate we'd always be ending up with different, more boring, if better executed versions of the same thing.
Having said all that I'd be annoyed, too, if I were a dedicated clan gamer faced with GRAW's current administrative, game-style and playability limitations in mp but I think GRIN must have been under huge corporate pressure from Ubi to make the release date, which is essentially the launch of the flagship, the singleplayer game. In the end, they produced a superlative sp game and set to work on an mp patch before it even hit the stores. Surely we are more fortunate to be able to anticipate the possibility of an mp game that lives up to the high standards set by its sp predecessor rather than have to live with a mediocre sp experience whose mp version, while more playable than GRAW'S currently is, more wide-ranging and delivered on time, lacks the kind of innovation and creative ambition to be found in GRAW sp. That's what CLOSE COMBAT - FIRST TO FIGHT was. Having set the bar as high as they have in sp, it's reasonable to assume that the devs want to deliver to that level in mp. I'm not saying it's guaranteed that they will deliver, but they might; even then, though, some people will complain that it's not GR1 with a glitzy graphical overlay and there will be those, too, who will want to play it like CSS and when they cannot, it will be the devs' fault for letting them down. Some of the clan diehards here are just going to have to live with a more innovative and ambitious development mentality on the part of GRAW's devs; these are talented, ambitious guys with a strong concept and a well-defined point of view. They didn't sign up to do a GR1 port for modern technology and we are going to have to meet them in the middle.
Yes GRIN has obiviosly bin under alot of presure from us and UBI Softs time limit, but that doest mean we shall all clap in our hands and thank "god" for what we get. end of story.
I know it might sound a bit harsh but really, we are getting alot of crap games in these dark times where the consoles have the priority.
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And seriously COME ON the [Ghost Recon] game was so far ahead of any military tactical shooters of its time. GRAW isnt.
Was it? Was it that much better than Rogue Spear at its release? Rogue Spear was pretty freakin' sweet.
[GR] was the best, don't get me wrong, but people talk about it like nothing had ever been seen before that was like it, and I don't know if that's the case.
Rogue Spear was CQB.
And yes it was a pretty sweet game.
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Blah blah.. blah blah blah.. ok so you find GRAW as a marvels game, so do I in many areas. (Forexample I really like the atmosphere in the game very much and the movement).
But in my world you only give good credit for the whole package, not the half.
Therefor its just incredible how people react when some are negative about game, because please let us all admit this game IS full of flaws and missings.
And have you ever have heard about the term called "what is spoken about is bad, what isnt is good".
And seriously COME ON the [Ghost Recon] game was so far ahead of any military tactical shooters of its time. GRAW isnt. Many of the awesome features in the [GR] have even bin pulled out and have not bin replaced whit even better ones.
And lets all remember GRAW should be aiming at the Tactical Realistic Gamers, not the avarage ones, we already have a dusin games like BF2, BlackHawkDown and ect. ect.
And GRAW has become more avarage. Forexample you can now take three hits even one in the face whitout dying, and thats b-o-l-l-o-c-k-s.
We all are just crying for a game that has it all, Realism, Tactics and a long lasting gameplay.
(I dont give me that responce "if you want realism join the army", NO war sucks thats why I play video games).
Really what do we have to do, before we will have a game that even gets close to the [Ghost Recon]?.
Ok GRAW has potential, but it just left me whit that" Woohoo - Ouch" feeling.
Anyways I'm not saying I want a second Ghost Recon, I want a worthy follower that has moved even further than the [Ghost Recon], not only the half way.
But I'll end this by thanking GRIN for trying the best and hope that some of the future expansions and patches will make this game more likeable.
Blah blah out!
Bring back the "CLASSiCS"

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+ civilians, maybe also dogs cats and birds.
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Where do you people live that you can return computer games/software? I've never been to a store where they will accept opened software.
**OFF TOPIC** As far as I know, EBgames is the only company that has this awesome service.
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When you are done whit the SP missions the game as it is now, isnt worth a penny, beause the MP part is a complete disaster.
I wouldn't call it a 'Complete Disaster', I leave that distinction to something like Lockdown. Example, I can actually find servers to play on, if I could only stay connected. Even the MP has great potential, including Domination, with some tweaks. The problem is that MP over all got the Redheaded-Stepchild treatment from GRIN as I am almost certain they ran out of time. If they can complete MP with addons and bug fixes, it is far from a complete disaster, IMHO.
Maybe not Domination mode but Co-op mode is.
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I pretty much agree whit you lightspeed.
The Urban missions are quite fun at times but they are pretty linear there is mostly only two or three ways to go.
The non urban map strongpoint is the worst map I have ever seen, you really get the feeling that you are playing a consol game.
When you are done whit the SP missions the game as it is now, isnt worth a penny, beause the MP part is a complete disaster.
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Can we please make this topic a sticky before it disapears?.
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I have bin looking for the latest driver for my graphic card but I'm really not sure which one I need.
Some help would be nice, thanks.
I got the..
nVidia Geforce Go 6600 256mb
(Sorry just realised that this topic should have bin put in the tech support forum
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You should be able to lock the "thread and the friend indicator" plus the "auto-reload", so it cant be used on your server.
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civilians
dogs, kats and birds.
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+ Smoke grenade.
(Dai-San please add the following suggestions to your list, so it will be pure easy for GRIN to keep up, because its a pain reading through hundreds of diffrent posts).
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The game actually looks more real when its off.
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One of the huge negative sides in the GRAW demo I think is the environments they seem very empty and the map very linear.
I would personally like to see some more rooms and rooftops that you could enter.
Maybe also add some civilians plus animals like dogs and birds.
And you can’t take good enough advantage of walls either, because you can’t get close enough to them, that I would really like to see get fixed.
The enemy AI takes good cover and that is of cause good, but damn they couldn’t hit an elephant if it was only 3 meters away from them, even on hard.
I really hate the health bar, and how you are able to take THREE hits. (Why remove the system from GR when that worked so very well).
I would also like to see some weather effects, because it really had a huge tactical effect in GR.
The mouse seems very sensitive and laggy don’t know why, I have tried everything.
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A solid 7.
Its not as intense as GR1 sadly.
The AI doesnt seem very bright.
The map seems a bit linere.
And I dont know about the mouse its very sensitive and laggy even on all low?
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Well my computer don't but I'll try DL the demo anyways, I will return whit a anwser when its done.
I have..
Intel Pentium 4 2.4 Ghz
533 Mhz Systembus
512 MB DDR RAM, 333 Mhz.
ATI Radeon 9200, 256 MB.
..So I really doubt it

Well that was not a succes.. All was as low as possible.. but no luck.
I could see the ingame map, my aim, I could shoot, reload ect. but the whole screen was black.
So now I need to go spend a whole lot of money on a new computer very soon.
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Well my computer don't but I'll try DL the demo anyways, I will return whit a anwser when its done.
I have..
Intel Pentium 4 2.4 Ghz
533 Mhz Systembus
512 MB DDR RAM, 333 Mhz.
ATI Radeon 9200, 256 MB.
..So I really doubt it

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Great news!

If I can run it

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But how does that mp5sd5 stay on his back whit glew?, because I dont see any wire.

Review Comparasion (GR1 vs GRAW)
in GR:AW (PC) - General Discussion
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Deja Vu yeah
But if you look at it its only 9 peoples opnion.