[Rocky]

http://www.shacknews...article.x/52841

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"What that says is that in the games business we will be able to encrypt with an absolutely verifiable private key in the encryption world--which is uncrackable by people on the internet and by giving away passwords--which will allow for a huge market to develop in some of the areas where piracy has been a real problem."

Sounds good, but they may be severely over estimating the increases in sales reading the tone of some of those quotes. Only a fraction of pirate downloads will translate to hard sales if the chip is a success IMO.

[NoQuarter]

If the TPM is half as effective as claimed, it will at the very least lessen the pubs justification of the "piracy excuse" for limiting PC releases.

[KRP 56]

Sounds like a good idea to me if it will work without being a pain in the backside like some of the other copy protection set ups we have now. But I must agree with Rocky as I also have many doubts about game pirates turning into buying customers.

[Pave Low]

engadget article

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Atari founder cries wolf about piracy-ending chip
by Ryan Block, posted May 26th 2008 at 12:09AM

So news is making its way around the internets that at the Wedbush Morgan Securities Management Access Conference, Atari founder Nolan Bushnell proclaimed the end of PC gaming piracy as we know it, thanks to a "stealth encryption chip."

The magic chip he's referring to that "will, in fact, absolutely stop piracy of gameplay"? The TPM chip -- what's been on motherboards for years, that apparently Bushnell just found out about.

While the tinfoil hats in the house will likely attribute TPM (Trusted Platform Module) and other onboard crypto-chips to the eventual downfall of privacy and personal computing, to date we've yet to see piracy stunted or civil liberties breached because of the little ######.

FUD you later, Nolan.

[ROCO*AFZ*]

That chip has been around for over 2 years. Intel introduced it and amd was preaching privacy to increase sales. Nowadays amd has it also.

Have yet to see it implemented though for piracy.

[CrowmanUK]

If modchips have come out for all the consoles allowing pirated software to be played on them I really dont see how this will make any difference to be honest. If something is out there that theyre saying is uncrackable the only guarantee you have is that it will be cracked.

[Rocky]

CrowmanUK, on May 27 2008, 03:19 PM, said:

If modchips have come out for all the consoles allowing pirated software to be played on them I really dont see how this will make any difference to be honest. If something is out there that theyre saying is uncrackable the only guarantee you have is that it will be cracked.

Agreed. I didn't even know the wii had been cracked/chipped until I saw one running in a school yesterday on copied games!

The ingenuity behind these chip producers is fascinating.

[CrowmanUK]

Must be a nightmare for nintendo when after recalling all the wii's to stop a certain modchip over xmas, the guy in charge of the modchip updated the firmware on it within a few days and worked around all their hard work, even when the wii firmware gets updated new modchip firmware comes out circumventing it.

[Papa6]

I spoke on the phone with my mum and basically told her that, there's no system, be it PC or DVD/Blueray etc, that can't be cracked. once a person or a group of people figure out an encryption, someone cracks it.

reminds me of that kid who cracked the DVD encryption. Blueray has been or will be cracked as well.

These companies who come up with these encryptions/TPM chips and the like are kidding themselves into a sense of false complacency.

[Fletch]

So has PgP been cracked using the 1024 bit and higher codes?

[WhiteKnight77]

Blu-ray DRM defeated

Blu-Ray has been hacked or defeated for some time now.

[Walter]

All a lock does is keep an honest man honest, it won't stop a criminal.

I wish these companies would realise that and stop sacrificing resources to something they can't win. Give us honest men a better product.

[CrowmanUK]

Everything is crackable given time, the longer password you have the slower it is to bruteforce crack it, there was a program on some channel about it, and to make your passwords as safe as possible make them longer, random letters, numbers, upper/lower case combos make it longer to crack but make no mistake about it, given time they can all be cracked.

[Walter]

And forgotten.

[ROCO*AFZ*]

CrowmanUK, on May 28 2008, 07:02 AM, said:

Everything is crackable given time, the longer password you have the slower it is to bruteforce crack it, there was a program on some channel about it, and to make your passwords as safe as possible make them longer, random letters, numbers, upper/lower case combos make it longer to crack but make no mistake about it, given time they can all be cracked.

Most though don't bother. Instead they phone hack. They call in posing to be one of the firm that installed your pc. They say they need to check something on it to verify the security is working remotely and will need your password.

Vola!

No brute force needed. Phone hacking is worst.