[Papa6]

I see something in the future happening as Georgia is a US ally and we want them in NATO. Russia could be destabilizing the region to prevent Georgia entering NATO.

edits added*

This post has been edited by Papa6: 10 August 2008 - 01:28 PM

[squad_e]

What if the ghosts have been already deployed there..

*Launches GR*

[Parabellum]

squad_e, on Aug 10 2008, 10:25 AM, said:

What if the ghosts have been already deployed there..

*Launches GR*

The Army Special Forces have been training the Georgian military for years.

[TheoRetiKule]

Indeed, a little game of [GR] suddenly has a whole lot more geopolitical relevance.

Kudos to the guys who concepted and wrote that first campaign, I'd say. We can only wait and see quite how right they might have been...



Theo

[Papa6]

durka-durka, on Aug 10 2008, 07:19 PM, said:

Parabellum, on Aug 10 2008, 01:41 PM, said:

squad_e, on Aug 10 2008, 10:25 AM, said:

What if the ghosts have been already deployed there..

*Launches GR*

The Army Special Forces have been training the Georgian military for years.

Apparently, coming from this article, which hasn't been confirmed yet, one has been captured. It's in Russian, and my wife (knows Russian) says one has been taken prisoner, and flown to some city to wait confirmation.

http://www.izvestia.ru/news/news185341

RIP to all those in this very real war who have fallen and will fall.

Russians don't take prisoners, atleast not in WWII. this person who ever got captured, I shall pray for him/her.

[Walter]

durka-durka, on Aug 11 2008, 02:19 AM, said:

http://www.izvestia.ru/news/news185341

A Google translation... (LINK)

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In South Ossetia captured American mercenary

In South Ossetia captured Georgian group suicide, which is U.S. citizen, African American. It is reported "Osetinskoe radio."

The group arrested in the vicinity of the village of Zar, who is on the "road of life" - Zarskoy road.

It is anticipated that U.S. citizen - one of NATO instructors. At this time, he transferred to Vladikavkaz to ascertain all the circumstances of his stay in the territory of the Republic of South Ossetia.

As Rosbalt "previously полпред South Ossetia in the Russian Federation Dmitry Medoev has already reported that among the corpses in Tskhinvali was found several bodies of black people who fought on the side of Georgia.


17:18 10.08.08

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[Walter]

170 Americans evacuated from Georgia (LINK)

[epabella]

so are 'we' really going? I'll sign-up but sooner the chopper gets here, the better!

[CR6]

Well, Georgian and Russian leaders could learn something from these two athletes at the Olympics

http://www.cnn.com/2...lympic.embrace/

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Russia's Natalia Paderina and Georgia's Nino Salukvadze hugged after winning Olympic silver and bronze medals, respectively, in the women's 10-meter air pistol competition.

"If the world were to draw any lessons from what I did, there would never be any wars," Salukvadze, 39, said afterward, according to media reports. The reports described the two as friends.

BTW, the Russian competitor is a soldier in the Russian army

[Papa6]

A good friend of mine knows a guy who is a military correspondent for the department of defense, gave an article about the Russian and Georgian conflict as such;

http://prophecytoday...gia-is-east.php

basically he says that Russia is testing the west's commitment to the region. It seems like a pretty well thought out article and could very well shed some light on the true nature of Russia's actions

Afterthoughts; added; I think Russia has always been communist. It just took a different face and look. But I think Russia is really trying to assert itself since it has all kinds of oil money to spend. It controls all the oil and pipelines even to Turkey.

I'm going to say that I think Russia is trying to regain all the nations it lost after the cold war.

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[Papa6]

Sorry for the double post but, this from Arutz Sheva news

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'Oil, Israel and Iran' Among Factors that Led to Georgia War
by Gl Ronen

Analysis of the war in Georgia points to a fight over a major oil route as the main reason for hostilities, but also to an Israeli connection.

Channel 2's expert on the Muslim world, Ehud Ya'ari, told viewers of the central evening newscast that Russia and neighboring countries were vying for control of a strategic oil pipeline from the Caspian Sea to the Mediterranean. This relatively new pipeline passes through Azerbaijan and Georgia to Turkey and is the only pipeline between Asia and Europe that does not pass through Russia or Iran. Israel is expecting to receive oil and gas through the pipeline.

By using the ethnic Russian population in South Ossetia to destabilize Georgia, Russia was making a play for the pipeline, he said.

The Israeli Connection
The Georgian move against South Ossetia was motivated by political considerations having to do with Israel and Iran, according to Nfc. Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili decided to assert control over the breakaway region in order to force Israel to reconsider its decision to cut back its support for Georgia's military.

Russian and Georgian media reported several days ago that Israel decided to stop its support f
Russia bombed a Georgian military plant in which Israeli experts are upgrading jet fighters for the Georgian military.
or Georgia after Moscow made it clear to Jerusalem and Washington that Russia would respond to continued aid for Georgia by selling advanced anti-aircraft systems to Syria and Iran.

Hundreds of Israeli defense experts are reportedly in Georgia and Israel's military industries have been upgrading Georgia's air force, training its infantry and selling the country unmanned aerial vehicles and advanced artillery systems.

Former minister Ronny Milo was reportedly among the leading Israeli middlemen in the arms deals with Georgia and Brig.-Gen. Gal Hirsch has been training army units through a company he owns.

Russia nixes ceasefire
Georgia has ordered its forces to cease fire, and offered to start talks with Russia over an end to hostilities in South Ossetia, Georgian officials said Sunday. However, Russia has reportedly rejected the offer. Earlier in the day, Georgia said its troops had pulled out of the breakaway region and that Russian forces were in control of its capital, Tskhinvali. Georgian President Saakashvili said Sunday that his country's sovereignty is in danger.

After conducting consultations regarding events in Georgia, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni said Sunday that Israel "recognizes Georgia's territorial integrity." Israel also called for a peaceful resolution of the conflict between Russia and Georgia.
Former minister Ronny Milo was reportedly among the leading Israeli middlemen in the arms deals with Georgia.

Russia bombs Israeli-run plant
Also on Sunday, Russia bombed a Georgian military plant in which Israeli experts are upgrading jet fighters for the Georgian military. According to Nfc, the bombing was a "sharp message" to Israel.

A Russian fighter jet bombed runways inside the plant, located near Tbilisi, where Israeli security firm Elbit is in charge of upgrading Georgian SU-25 jets.

Dozens Waiting to Make Aliyah from Georgia
Eight Jews were scheduled to arrive from Georgia to Israel Sunday evening and dozens more intend to make Aliyah to the Jewish state, once they finish the required paperwork. Representatives of Russian Aliyah agency Nativ will provide the Olim with Aliyah permits. The Georgian government claims Tbilisi's international airport was damaged Sunday after being bombed by Russian jets, and it is not clear if flights will be able to take off in the coming days.

Russia's foreign minister denied the Georgian claim, Russian news agency Interfax reported.
Russia is not denying reports that it bombed a military airport in a suburb of Tbilisi twice.

Russia: Western Media is Pro-Georgian
Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Gregory Karasin said Sunday that international and western press coverage of events in Georgia were biased in favor of the Georgians.

"The West behaved strangely in the first hours of the attack on South Ossetia," Karasin said, and added that "the U.S.A.'s negative attitude" would be "taken into consideration in the future in contacts about other global questions." The US says it will ask the United Nations to condemn Russia's actions in Georgia.

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[Sup]

Papa6, on Aug 11 2008, 08:51 PM, said:

Afterthoughts; added; I think Russia has always been communist. It just took a different face and look. But I think Russia is really trying to assert itself since it has all kinds of oil money to spend. It controls all the oil and pipelines even to Turkey.

I'm going to say that I think Russia is trying to regain all the nations it lost after the cold war.

Do you perhaps mean 'expansionist'? There is nothing about communism that implies taking over your neighbors. There is also nothing about russia, as it stands, that demonstrates communism. it's a form of government. it's not the form of government they presently have.

Care to elaborate on why you think they're still communist?