[Rocky]

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Industry titan Electronic Arts has confirmed that there will be no PC version for the upcoming Madden 2009.

That in itself may not be a huge blow, but the precedent it is setting, or at least confirming, arguably is.

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there's no question that a definitive statement has been made by EA

Let's take a look at how many PC titles Ubisoft currently have with release dates....

TWO

One of those is Vegas 2. Funnily enough, if you happen to catch the Vegas 2 advert that's running on telly right now - there isn't even a PC logo nestled alongside the X360 and PS3 logos. It's almost like they grudge the PC sector the game, and then don't even advertise it. What chance?

The writing is on the wall. Soon we will all be at the mercy of over priced, rushed out the door mainstream 30fps console games, game lobbys filled with smart mouths looking for the quickest way to rank up.

Or perhaps Madden on the PC just plain sucked.

[WhiteKnight77]

Rocky, on Apr 3 2008, 09:07 PM, said:

Or perhaps Madden on the PC just plain sucked.

Madden sucks on all platforms from what I hear, but what do I know?

[Rocky]

WhiteKnight77, on Apr 4 2008, 06:13 AM, said:

Rocky, on Apr 3 2008, 09:07 PM, said:

Or perhaps Madden on the PC just plain sucked.

Madden sucks on all platforms from what I hear, but what do I know?

Madden is/was a best seller.

[Brettzies]

I saw this the other day and I'm not sure what to make of it. Generally sports games translate better on console because of the control system. You really need a gamepad if you want to play it on PC. However, the x360 controller is available for PC, so that's not the problem.

I can see where they are coming from a business perspective, it's just not worth it for them, the get enough revenue from the consoles, but it's still sad. It will only lead to other games. I think NFS will be next. TigerWoods? Who knows. Once you do something like this you set a precedent.

Whether Madden sucks or not it is one of the top seller's year in and year out. Funny because the game of football is pretty much the same year in and year out, Madden just has up to date rosters and maybe some better graphics. Some other games could learn from that...I'm talking to you Ghost Recon.

If I was going to buy this type of game I'd get it for console, but I wonder how big the PC Madden audience is. I wonder what their reaction is.

This post has been edited by Brettzies: 04 April 2008 - 09:03 AM

[doubletap]

I won't go off on too much of a rant but I saw this coming 3 or 4 years ago when microsoft bought massive inc, and immediately thereafter xbox live was overhauled to make it a more efficient facility for dynamic advertizing.

Advertizers (and micro$oft) are absolutely crazy over this trend, and you can bet they are the reason for the focus on xb360 game developement vs pc games. The dynamic ad system is very "clunky" (and can be disabled) on pc compared to the system perfectly incorporated into xblive.

Make no mistake, decisions like this are ALL about investors and advertisers.

It's not quite as simple as "console is where most gamers play", although that is of course what fuels their strategy. Game consoles will soon be an even more efficient advertizing platform than television, because of the invasive nature which allows "them" to actually get feedback from you without even asking. Do not underestimate what that tactic is worth to advertisers. They've only dreamed of this ability in the past.

And as I warned years ago, we are going to start seeing it's ugly influence on game developement itself, everything from level design to what types of games they feel will facilitate ads better than others.

Youuuuuuuuuul seeeeeeeeeeeee.

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Funny because the game of football is pretty much the same year in and year out, Madden just has up to date rosters and maybe some better graphics. Some other games could learn from that...I'm talking to you Ghost Recon.

I agree totally.Sad thing is that most game reviewers actually complain about no new "revolutionary" changes to the game.

Idiots.

This post has been edited by doubletap: 04 April 2008 - 11:01 AM

[dporter]

WhiteKnight77, on Apr 4 2008, 01:13 AM, said:

Rocky, on Apr 3 2008, 09:07 PM, said:

Or perhaps Madden on the PC just plain sucked.

Madden sucks on all platforms from what I hear, but what do I know?

Are you kidding me. Madden is one of the best selling games on either console. I even really really like it on the wii. I can throw the ball just like I would in real life with the wii mote. Have you ever heard of or seen Madden Nation on ESPN?

Madden was a game designed for consoles and extremely difficult to play on the PC. This news shouldn't shock anyone who actually plays the series. It's also a big stretch to relate this decision by EA to any sort of "huge blow to PC gaming". Trust me, Madden won't be missed on PC.

[WhiteKnight77]

For the record, I never played any of the Madden games and view them just like EA's NASCAR games (I have played these) on the console, filler. I am not even a football fan (or what they call football these days). If you like them, that's cool, I don't.

[KRP 56]

WhiteKnight77, on Apr 4 2008, 01:13 AM, said:

Rocky, on Apr 3 2008, 09:07 PM, said:

Or perhaps Madden on the PC just plain sucked.

Madden sucks on all platforms from what I hear, but what do I know?

Don't know about the other platforms but I must admit that after playing a friend of mines PC copy it almost made me swear off football forever.

[REDMONSTER]

KRP 56, on Apr 5 2008, 09:13 AM, said:

WhiteKnight77, on Apr 4 2008, 01:13 AM, said:

Rocky, on Apr 3 2008, 09:07 PM, said:

Or perhaps Madden on the PC just plain sucked.

Madden sucks on all platforms from what I hear, but what do I know?

Don't know about the other platforms but I must admit that after playing a friend of mines PC copy it almost made me swear off football forever.

it must have just been me then O_o but every verson iv epalyed on teh pc was fun once i got sued to the controls on the keybord (yes the game pad was eaiser loL) hate this news

[Lightspeed]

there will always be PC games - there's a market for it so some Dev will take care of it.

EA takes care of sports which are better on console so that's fine.

Ground Branch will be on PC - that's perfect.

[Sup]

Rocky, on Apr 4 2008, 04:20 AM, said:

WhiteKnight77, on Apr 4 2008, 06:13 AM, said:

Rocky, on Apr 3 2008, 09:07 PM, said:

Or perhaps Madden on the PC just plain sucked.

Madden sucks on all platforms from what I hear, but what do I know?

Madden is/was a best seller.

Aye, it is. There's a whole market of madden buyers that aren't even really considered videogamers -- they'll buy a new console, yearly madden games, and maybe Halo or something else sold to them by word of mouth. It's kindof startling how much of culture popular, at least here in america, Madden is -- next to WoW it's probably the biggest videogame played by people who aren't really classified as 'gamers'.

That said, it kinda sucks, yeah. EA made an awesome football game years ago, and then just quit caring. Every madden game for the last ten years has played almost exactly the same, and the age shows. Madden is produced and released cheap for a huge profit every year. It makes sense why they went console only.

WK's exactly right, they're filler.

Brettzies, i'm pretty sure you're wrong about Need for Speed. That franchise doesn't follow they yearly update format of EA's main sports games. I'd say Nascar and tiger woods will leave the pc eventually for sure, though.

[Cpl Ledanek]

couldn't catch a real football in real life; couldn't in the virtual world either...no big loss here

[Brettzies]

Sup, on Apr 8 2008, 09:58 AM, said:

Brettzies, i'm pretty sure you're wrong about Need for Speed. That franchise doesn't follow they yearly update format of EA's main sports games. I'd say Nascar and tiger woods will leave the pc eventually for sure, though.

I only mentioned NFS becasue it comes out on almost every platform at the same time. Much like the other sports games. I have no idea if it's as popular on the PC as consoles(even those it may not be so be). I can see them cutting the PC out of that franchise as well. It's not about being right or wrong...it's just speculation. I'd say I'm wrong most of the time in my speculations anyway.

They pretty much do have a new NFS game every year though, not like traditional sports, but they seem to be on a yearly release schedule. Wouldn't be too surprised to see something at E3.

NFS 1995 - 2007 No game in 1996.

[firefly2442]

As long as there are people willing to buy PC games I don't see it going away. I think PC gaming in general has decreased because of console saturation but when you look at gaming as a whole, it's increasing rapidly. Isn't gaming more popular than going out to the movies right now?

This post has been edited by firefly2442: 11 April 2008 - 12:30 AM

[Tinker]

A couple of observations:

Went down the town last week for some bits. There has been 3 small PC shops here for years.
1 is now something completely different, 1 is a consoles only shop now, and the last was still in business.

Local Asda supermarket used to have a whole stack of shelves just for PC games, now they are stuffed in a corner and hard to even find.