[GothicSnake]

I'm curious as to what do the A-Teams use for their heavy firepower? I dont think they use the M60/Mk48 like the SEAL's, at least I've never seen it, so what do they pack? The stock 240B seems a bit cumbersome for their operations (I've only seen them mounted on vehicles), but maybe there's a compact version I dont know of? Or does SF just stick with the SAW's?

[babydave]

I saw a documentary about them the other day in afghanistan and they were using a gun that looked a bit like a GPMG with belt fed ammo (not in a box), hey it might actually have been a GPMG!

[supasniper]

they have available to them: mk43 (m60), mk 46 (minimi), mk48 (fn mag) what they use is up the the operator probably

[GothicSnake]

supasniper, on Oct 24 2004, 08:20 PM, said:

they have available to them: mk43 (m60), mk 46 (minimi), mk48 (fn mag) what they use is up the the operator probably

Hmm...I thought the M60E4 was the Mk48. Whatever, I've never seen that weapon, before, but yeah, that's a compact 240, just as I thought they would probably use. I probably have seen them carrying it, it just looks so similar to the Mk46 I couldnt tell.

[supasniper]

there's alomst no difference between the mk46 & 48 other then size untill you get close and really start comparing them.

the SEALs might still have some stoner LMG's in their armoury left over from 'nam too

[DeltaDude]

SF OD-A's use the M240B as their HMG.

[RooK]

Wasn't the Stoner 63 system used during the Vietname era? Surely some of those are still in some dark corner of the armories.

[budgie]

I saw on the FN website that the Mk46 and 48 are two different guns:

FN-MAG (M240B or GPMG) all variations of the same 7.62 'light' machine gun.

Minimi (M249, C9, etc) this is the newer, smaller 5.56 'version' of the MAG. It actually has the same action but looks so different and is sued so widely it has spawned a class of its own including;

Minimi para ( very short barrel and a sliding stock)
MK46 Mod-0 (the seals like it - fixed stock I think and shorter barrel - rail system added)

Which brings us to the MK48 Mod-0 (a 7.62 version of the M249 to look at, with the same rail system as the MK46; this can be considered perhaps a shorter version of the M240B)

So:
M240B - long 7.62
M249 - rifle-length 5.56
MK48 - rifle length 7.62
MK46 - shorter M249 5.56

...I guess...

[snowpilot]

It depends on the group in question. Rangers are known to use M2's every once in a while, though it's not their preferred weapon.

Keep in mind that Spec Ops groups try as hard as possible to avoid enemy contact unless they're on a dedicated search-and-destroy mission, so the average team might have a couple 249's or 240G's, maybe a 60 in some cases. Other groups, like the SAS, use adapted AR's in the support role. These have heavier barrels, bipods, etc.

Again, the spec ops community doesn't usually carry HMG's because they shouldn't have the need for them. Those are for sustained firefights, and that's the last thing a team of 8 needs!

[Whisper_44]

RooK, on Oct 24 2004, 06:23 PM, said:

Wasn't the Stoner 63 system used during the Vietname era?  Surely some of those are still in some dark corner of the armories.

Did someone say Stoner 63???

[Scarecrow]

as the stoner 63 was replaced by stoner's "other" design- the m16/ar-15 colt family of weapons- the military - contrary to standard "mothball" procedures-actually snatched them up and destroyed many of them; making them a very sought after collector's peice. there are very few surviving stoner 63's today, nearly all in private hands. For the units or operators who are using them today typically use the Robinson m96 modular system, which can be a recon carbine, lmg, or bren gun style top-feeding lmg.