Tinker Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I can check with the level designer who made it tomorrow. It could be that he planed for the tanks to be taken out with C4. I don't know, but I'll check. Mission does not have any hidden weapon zones. Unable to select Rockets using coop ranks either. Looks like placing C4 only for now. I don't see that as a problem. I actually prefer it that way because it'll force people to actually think rather than fire and forget. Only problem is the tanks superhuman power to know where you are if you stick out any part of your body. Totally agree, but unable to find any detection settings for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysticaly Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I can check with the level designer who made it tomorrow. It could be that he planed for the tanks to be taken out with C4. I don't know, but I'll check. Mission does not have any hidden weapon zones. Unable to select Rockets using coop ranks either. Looks like placing C4 only for now. I don't see that as a problem. I actually prefer it that way because it'll force people to actually think rather than fire and forget. Only problem is the tanks superhuman power to know where you are if you stick out any part of your body. I 100% agree, no real need for Rockets, the only thing in need of changing is the fact that the tank has super aim and incredible reflexes. Smoke is the key here, so it actually promotes team play in another level, since you really need at least one who throw smoke, and the rest simply have to play after the one who's doing the smoke job, etc. etc. I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JASGripen Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Nice music, reminds be of being at friends at late eighties, coveting their computer games. But before I could play I had to watch and listen through their "demos" of grafic and... that kind of sound/music. I hope the patch brings some "original" feel too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 "Men behaving badly" What`s the point in cookies, if the cookie jar is always full?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rpghard Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 (edited) wCrash in application version: 30899.3048 data\lib\units\extensions\inventory.dsf(-1): cant find member: player_data in type <Unit> Renderer: normal Physics : threaded This happen in 'coop_retrieve' when somebody teamkilled and got kicked...Another thing that still not working is the chat in game for client server, everybody was saying hi to me and I was unable to answer them...so guys its not cause I'm antisocial it's simply a bug... Edited February 14, 2008 by Rpghard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FI_FlimFlam Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 wCrash in application version: 30899.3048 data\lib\units\extensions\inventory.dsf(-1): cant find member: player_data in type <Unit> Renderer: normal Physics : threaded This happen in 'coop_retrieve' when somebody teamkilled and got kicked...Another thing that still not working is the chat in game for client server, everybody was saying hi to me and I was unable to answer them...so guys its not cause I'm antisocial it's simply a bug... Same thing happened to me while hosting - exact error. Except because I was hosting and playing it took the server down. It's pretty simple to get the tanks. There are corners near the end of their runs that you can use to get close to the tanks. Then sprint the last couple of meters to the tank and not even have a shot fired at you. No need for smoke at all. The issue is being patient to not rush the tank and also to take out all the bleeding snipers and fixed turrets. I laugh every time I see a fixed gun placed in such a way that it covers a 10m square courtyard and not any kind of distance or approach. It's just behind a blind corner to force you to die repeatedly to get a shot on him so you can advance in the map. My opinion is the map is just another meat grinder until you memorize all the positions of the enemies. I did find that it seemed easier to sneak up on the AI from behind or the side (not the tanks they still have ESP). They no longer sensed you and if you were silenced they didn't seem to react. Of course this is terrible when there is a tango 3m away from the one you shot and they are still standing there. I would say from the AI perspective, it's better than it was before. Also worth mentioning is the spawn forward aspect of the map. While I lament the gameplay design that removed squads, this helps alittle. It doesn't replace the natural teamwok fostering that squads do, but no you don't have to run forever to get to the action once you die. This will be a nice change for a few days and then I'll be back at other games unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it). I'll leave it at that and keep the complaining to a minimum as I know you guys are tired of my ranting. Still thanks for the effort GRIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoh Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Thank you for the patch, I'm sure a lot of hard work went into it. I play mostly co-op multiplayer. Nice to have a patch, I guess. And a new map (wasn't it supposed ot be two new co-op maps?) I'm guessing somebody needed the team working on the GRAW2 patch for newer projects, because this patch looks more like a "get it out there and let's close the door on GRAW2" kind of thing. Incomplete, lacking in fixes for bugs present since 1.0, and little new added content. And for this we waited... how long?? I would have tested the new shotgun and m/g, but I haven't been able to stay connected to a server long enough to check them out. "Auto/burst/single" selector bug is still present, and possibly even worse now. Used to be that you could open a chat window, type the letter "z", then hit esc to close the chat and your weapon would change from default automatic mode to single or burst. Now, the game crashes when you try that work-around. Thanks for leaving us stuck (even more firmly) on automatic mode. I see players dropping out of the servers a lot more now than I did pre-patch 105. When they return, they're usually cussing some bug that crashed game. That tells me there's been instability inserted into the game rather than removed. This is the "repaired network code"?? It's a step backwards. Not impressed with this patch, or with the entire GRAW2 game. So close... so very close to making a fantastic game, and yet GRAW-1 still provides better game play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ59 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Yeah.. I got kicked from my own server.. with no one else playing the new coop map. At first I thought that the server settings had a time limit that I had forgotten to reset due to the patch being installed. There was no team killing in this case... obviously. I am very disappointed to hear the the "fire rate" bug was not corrected. This totally blows. A rather simple work around would have been for them to make the default fire rate single shot. I think most of us would rather be stuck in single shot than auto fire. This is why I used Lord Brettzies weapon pack. The M-16 is set to single shot by default. So the bug isn't a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blueberry_EBDA Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 What is with UBI always releasing Graw stuff on the 13th everytime????? Bad luck I guess{for the game}.LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoQuarter Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 "- 2 New weapons added, M240 Machinegun and M1014 Shotgun." Could not care less about shotgun or the M240 as I never use ether once (does anyone ?)It's only slightly amusing when I see these types of complaints about added content, you don't use it therefore it does not belong, well thanks but then again an SP (only) player might think the same of all the time/resources spent on the MP netcode revisions or additions. Where does that get us? ____ I just used both; and just to keep in spirit (of the thread), the M240 is not very accurate and the M1014 should have been classed as a secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCO*AFZ* Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 "- 2 New weapons added, M240 Machinegun and M1014 Shotgun." Could not care less about shotgun or the M240 as I never use ether once (does anyone ?)It's only slightly amusing when I see these types of complaints about added content, you don't use it therefore it does not belong, well thanks but then again an SP (only) player might think the same of all the time/resources spent on the MP netcode revisions or additions. Where does that get us? ____ I just used both; and just to keep in spirit (of the thread), the M240 is not very accurate and the M1014 should have been classed as a secondary. Practice more with the shotgun. It really makes a great primary. Any close quarter and it will own you. And if you follow your blasts puffs of smoke i have killed people up to 40 yards so far with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hipshot Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 A note: To kill the tanks in Retrieve, place a C4 on them, since there's no RPG on the level or in the kit selection. If not killing the tanks, I guess it would be pretty hard completing the map... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysticaly Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 "- 2 New weapons added, M240 Machinegun and M1014 Shotgun." Could not care less about shotgun or the M240 as I never use ether once (does anyone ?)It's only slightly amusing when I see these types of complaints about added content, you don't use it therefore it does not belong, well thanks but then again an SP (only) player might think the same of all the time/resources spent on the MP netcode revisions or additions. Where does that get us? ____ I just used both; and just to keep in spirit (of the thread), the M240 is not very accurate and the M1014 should have been classed as a secondary. Did I say that this content did not belong there ? Did I say anything else than "I find my selves not caring about it", did this mean that I somehow think that it should not have been added at all, or even that it's not welcome, I made a remark that I don't use it, hence I don't care. No need to be a wise (you know) and make what I've said into something else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viiiper Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Practice more with the shotgun. It really makes a great primary. Any close quarter and it will own you. And if you follow your blasts puffs of smoke i have killed people up to 40 yards so far with it. Roco with his 40 yds shotgun sounds like it needs nurffing. (aka 0.5 cal) As for the patch, thank you Grin especially the 2 / 3 that actually did it while the rest were drinking coffee and eating their favorite pastries. Nice to see progress on the GRAW Series. thanks viii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCO*AFZ* Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Practice more with the shotgun. It really makes a great primary. Any close quarter and it will own you. And if you follow your blasts puffs of smoke i have killed people up to 40 yards so far with it. Roco with his 40 yds shotgun sounds like it needs nurffing. (aka 0.5 cal) As for the patch, thank you Grin especially the 2 / 3 that actually did it while the rest were drinking coffee and eating their favorite pastries. Nice to see progress on the GRAW Series. thanks viii LOL i didn't say it was easy... It's also harder to see your group when your aimed... you have to bring it up, shoot, got to hip to see the puff of smoke where it hit, adjust aim again.. But it is possible lol. I'll tell you what though. That shotgun is GREAT for clearing bushes in the cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmonger Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Back to playing GRAW 1. GRIN, UBISOFT or whoever, you're making the game worse but I thank you for your effort could not agree more - GRAW2 is such a complete dud, I am considering to free up those gigs on my C drive for good now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisper_44 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 could not agree more - GRAW2 is such a complete dud, I am considering to free up those gigs on my C drive for good now. Promises, promises Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vector1 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 (edited) wCrash in application version: 30899.3048 data\lib\units\extensions\inventory.dsf(-1): cant find member: player_data in type <Unit> Renderer: normal Physics : threaded This happen in 'coop_retrieve' when somebody teamkilled and got kicked...Another thing that still not working is the chat in game for client server, everybody was saying hi to me and I was unable to answer them...so guys its not cause I'm antisocial it's simply a bug... Wow! It wasn't just me!!! The game's become a great deal more unstable for me ever since 1.05 was installed. I run a clan server for a bunch of friends and I've had to restart the game about 11 times in a period of three hours last night. It started getting frustrating for some of the members. The same or similar error messages occured for me as well. In my case it said there were missing members relating to graphic files as well as the message you tagged above. This happened in both the Default CO-OP maps as well as the custom maps that worked somewhat flawlessly with the 1.04 patch. Sigh. Great game! Very good intentions with the 1.05 patch... But is there a way to force the game back to 1.04 and not require the autopatch to occur when clients try to log into multiplayer? Edited February 14, 2008 by Vector1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNorkle Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 wCrash in application version: 30899.3048 data\lib\units\extensions\inventory.dsf(-1): cant find member: player_data in type <Unit> Renderer: normal Physics : threaded This happen in 'coop_retrieve' when somebody teamkilled and got kicked...Another thing that still not working is the chat in game for client server, everybody was saying hi to me and I was unable to answer them...so guys its not cause I'm antisocial it's simply a bug... Wow! It wasn't just me!!! The game's become a great deal more unstable for me ever since 1.05 was installed. I run a clan server for a bunch of friends and I've had to restart the game about 11 times in a period of three hours last night. It started getting frustrating for some of the members. The same or similar error messages occured for me as well. In my case it said there were missing members relating to graphic files as well as the message you tagged above. This happened in both the Default CO-OP maps as well as the custom maps that worked somewhat flawlessly with the 1.04 patch. Sigh. Great game! Very good intentions with the 1.05 patch... But is there a way to force the game back to 1.04 and not require the autopatch to occur when clients try to log into multiplayer? Well... applied the patch, picked a server and was able to play almost 20 minutes before the game crashed down to the desktop. Not really seeing the promised improvements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttercupp Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I definitely appreciate the patch and work put into it. Thank you, GRIN. RE: Satoh's post - I can confirm the Auto/burst/single select fire bug is still there. The mentioned workaround we all used now causes this crash: Wed Feb 13 21:15:40 2008 Crash in application version: 30899.3048 data\lib\units\extensions\inventory.dsf(-1): cant find member: pressed in type <void> Renderer: threaded Physics : threaded With 1.05, the netcode seems less stable than 1.04. Tangos in coop take longer to react to being shot, and map load times are longer. The coop memory leak is still very active, alive and well. GRAW2 coop mp has much to like about it, but many obstacles to overcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joriko Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I don't play multiplayer so all these new bugs have no effect on me. I did have a question however, are the two new weapons available in the sp campaign as well or is it MP-exclusive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNorkle Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Crash in application version: 30899.3048 Unhandled exception - access violation C STACK: graw2 (???) : ??? graw2 (???) : ??? graw2 (???) : ??? graw2 (???) : ??? ??? (???) : ??? graw2 (???) : ??? ??? (???) : ??? ??? (???) : ??? graw2 (???) : ??? graw2 (???) : ??? SCRIPT STACK: data\lib\units\extensions\inventory.dsf(0) data\lib\managers\instancedescriptionmanager.dsf(0) data\lib\managers\instancedescriptionmanager.dsf(0) data\lib\units\extensions\groupunit.dsf(0) data\lib\units\extensions\groupunit.dsf(0) data\lib\units\extensions\groupunit.dsf(0) Renderer: threaded Physics : threaded ========================================================== What an enjoyable patch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INTIMADATOR Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 was wondering why there still isnt a auto download for the servers ,,there are some really nice maps being made and when there in rotation the server emties because no one has the map ,,auto download feature would help the cause greatly ,, THANKS INTIMADATOR_EBDA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trucker63 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Just curious if it's just me or not but once I install this patch, I only have one grenade on my grenade launcher instead of 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttercupp Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Forgot to add - it's nice to have the server logs now. Haven't checked to see if there's 4 or 1 grenade...is that in single player or multiplayer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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