I don't want any xbox console left overs period, dot, point blank, the only thing i want from that version MAYBE is the graphics upgrade, but the rest of the mongo-ish game/gameplay can go back to xbox live, but even then the graphics were specifically made on and for the xbox graphics chip so it has shaders and textures made for the xbox (i've seen the nvidia dds textures and the xbox specific shaders) so it might be possible that people with real new vidcards might not be impressed like say compared to other games such as HalfLife2 or other new computer games, maybe that's what might be taking them a long time is just the porting from the damn console version, and probably why they don't want to say anything All i know is i'm just angry about not seeing anything good from the xbox version or anything period come from the horses mouth about the pc version, BUT on the other hand i'm getting a cpu and vidcard upgrade soon, and close combat is coming out soon and half life 2 looks pretty damn good with all there modding tools...it would kinda suck to say bye to what used to be an awesome series, but i'd rather move on and pay for something good then pay for and support something i can't stand