Tit Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Hello GR team! I have been asked to wright my problem here. I have 4 computer I have downloaded GR on I only downloaded the first GR just to see if it works on 8.1 and windows 10. Turns out it won't run on any of my pcs, 3 are 8.1 and one is 10. This is what it does once I click on the application icon and the auto run play button. Shows the Circle loading for a second and then it goes away and the game does nothing. I was talking to my brother yesterday and I asked him if we ever tried on windows 7 and he said he did try it on Windows 7 and also didn't work a couple of months ago. Funny enough a year or two ago I had it working on 8.1 and also Windows 7 and then also XP Service Pack 3. It worked great so I'm not sure why recently it's just not working when I download it. Kind of weird my old monster truck Madness even works on my 8.1 and Windows 10 perfect! Just was playing five player multiplayer custom maps and everything! Monster truck Madness pretty fun! Anyway hope someone can direct me to the proper steps to take on fixing this problem with 2001 GR not working! 😌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Hi The first thing is to know that GR will run on all windows, including Windows 10 (which is what I run it on). I have a faint recollection your issue is something to do with the codec used for the opening cinematic, I seem to recall some people had this problem years ago. Maybe someone else here can recall... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannik Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I know with an AMD video card, you need to use an older driver on Windows 10, but I can't recall specifics. No clue about Nvidia or Intel video though. You'll need to be more specific for assistance. I know that I have ran OGR under XP, 7, and 10 just fine, both original disk based, and Steam versions. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat50 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) I'm using Win 10 on two computers. One has a Nvidia card and GR works with the latest GPU drivers. The other has an AMD card and will not even launch the game with the latest drivers. This happened several months ago and I downloaded the oldest drivers AMD had and GR worked normally. I think they were the Apr 2019 version. Check my reply to MilitiaMan in this thread Another issue is installing GR with a disc version on Win7 and 10. Microsoft did something that messes with the Digital Rights Management on the discs and the game will not launch. The only legal alternative is to buy the Steam version. Edited January 14, 2020 by wombat50 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tit Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 I am installing GR from a disk but on windows 8.1. I like 8.1 much more then windows 10 Because it still lets u do home group and works better with other computer's on the network. I do have newer graphics cards in my computers and from what you guys are saying, maybe they are too new for GR? I ran GR on my older windows 8.1 laptops that had older graphics cards non dedicated graphics cards just vram in the motherboard. Thank you all for replying but a special thanks to wombat you sound like you're on the right track! (In reply to Wombat50 Another issue is installing GR with a disc version on Win7 and 10. Microsoft did something that messes with the Digital Rights Management on the discs and the game will not launch. The only legal alternative is to buy the Steam version.) And another reason why I switched to 8.1 was because Windows 10 was having a problem with running GR also Windows 7 so I went Windows 8.1 and it worked like 2 years ago. So it sounds like that (digital Rights Management ) thing. Originally I was thinking maybe 8.1 came out with a similar update to cause the same problem. And the original reason why I have a disc is because my Dad bought it a while ago but I don't want to do the steam version because I like the fact that I can modify the files very easily with the disc version and I can just install it on all of my computer's as many times as I want. I like to play like Five Guys in the same room! What are the steps you guys would do if you were in my position installing Ghost Recon from the desk on 3 windows 8.1 computers and one Windows 10 computer and they all act the same way, install goes good, icon shows up on your desktop, you double-click it, it acts like it's going to try for a second and then just quits. 😣 and all your hopes to play this fantastic game goes down the drain 😭 I'm at work rn. Sorry if I made any errors I will correct them once I'm free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat50 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) I should have said starting with Windows 7 the disc version will not work. So it applies to Windows 8 too. The last time GR installed and worked for me using discs was using Windows XP. There is a work around but it is considered illegal. The Steam version is the only legal option. What card you have whether it be a Nvidia or AMD may make a difference. I know AMDs RX 580 and RX 590 with the latest drivers will not let GR work. Maybe a older or different type of AMD card does not have this problem. What video card do you have? Edited January 14, 2020 by wombat50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tit Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) Does anyone here use a disc still? literally two years ago my disc worked on all of my 8.1 machines. Thanks again for replying wombat 50 hope someone can help me solve this problem. I don't think this matters much because I have tried many different machines with and without dedicated graphics cards and they all do the same thing double click on GR, admin pops up, do you want to allow the following Program (lolyloly), and then I click yes, the screen goes black for 2 seconds and then the black goes away, then nothing happens!!! I really don't want to get the steam version. Wombat50 you said (There is a work around but it is considered illegal. The Steam version is the only legal option.) What do I do??? Edited January 15, 2020 by Tit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tit Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 On 13/01/2020 at 13:40, Rocky said: Hi The first thing is to know that GR will run on all windows, including Windows 10 (which is what I run it on). I have a faint recollection your issue is something to do with the codec used for the opening cinematic, I seem to recall some people had this problem years ago. Maybe someone else here can recall... Do you still think it could be the codec? What do I do to fix it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I tried to find out more about the codec issue I referred, searched this forum and the internet, but I came up blank! I use the steam version, its only a few bucks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Kurz Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I have Ghost Recon ('Complete' with GR, DS, & IT, if that makes any difference) installed from CD on Win7-64 bit (not updated, which may make a difference?). For reasons I don't understand, after my laptop (HP Pavilion with Nvidia graphics card) is rebooted, the first time you launch GR, nothing happens. Go into Task Manager, into the Processes tab, select GhostRecon.exe *32 and click on the End Process button. Then launch Ghost Recon again and it works but takes some time to load (which decreasing load times on subsequent sessions, until the next reboot). I used to leave the GR CD in the drive, but it used to thrash it (so bypassed that), but after my last vanilla install I launched GR forgetting I still had the Rainbow 6 Vegas disk in the drive, and it still worked (as described above). Maybe worth a try, see if it works for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tit Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 5kurz thanks, I'll give that a shot! Wombat50 also gave me some tips privately. So if they work I'll let the form know as soon as I can! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tit Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) Hi everyone. Now that I have time to work on GR because its the weekend I have been trying all your guy's suggestions. Here's a little update. All the ideas you guys gave me didn't work 😭 so I tried something that none of u guys suggested xD I had my little brother install a fresh windows 8.1 ( thank you 5kurz for telling everyone here that a fresh windows 7 runs GR on the disk and you don't need steam ) that made me really 😊 GR works on a fresh 8.1 install, as long as I don't let the computer do any windows updates. Now all I have to do Is find what update brakes GR. I'll update you guy's once I find that little piece of junk that caused all this!!! Edited January 20, 2020 by Tit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Haha very cool you are making progress! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tit Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) How to fix Ghost Recon from not starting on windows 8.1. How to get Ghost recon to work windows 8.1. 2001 ghost recon not working on windows 8.1. problem solved KB3086255 is the update that destroys Ghost Recon in windows 8.1 The prosses was a bit tedious, installing and uninstalling updates to track down which one, but in the end it made it really nice not to have to install a fresh version of windows 8.1 and loose all your stuff on your PC. So just to confirm with you all, if you have windows 8.1 and a disk of GR, uninstalling the security update ( KB3086255 ) will fix Ghost Recons not starting problem! If you want to uninstall this update for yourself to fix your old beloved Ghost Recon game this is how you do it: you type into the search (view installed updates) and from there its easy, once you click on that it pops up the list of all the updates Microsoft installed on your pc and you right click on the update KB3086255 and click uninstall, then reset your computer, done! Congratulations, now you can use your disk becouse you just fixed your problem! Edited January 20, 2020 by Tit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat50 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 That is so cool that you tracked down the offending update. Kudos to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Criquet Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Microsoft should stop updating security updates. This prevents games from working... I have the game "Who wants to earn millions" in version in francs. And I have the junior version in euros. Both do not work in Windows 8 and 10. 😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Ooops - that update was already tracked down in our forums HERE. That's great you solved it though, awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tit Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 -Rocky- xD I thought I was the only one that figured that out. And now your telling me someone else already had it solved long ago! Oh man. Well guess the game works now and thats what was important... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloops Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 16/01/2020 at 06:35, 5Kurz said: I have Ghost Recon ('Complete' with GR, DS, & IT, if that makes any difference) installed from CD on Win7-64 bit (not updated, which may make a difference?). For reasons I don't understand, after my laptop (HP Pavilion with Nvidia graphics card) is rebooted, the first time you launch GR, nothing happens. Go into Task Manager, into the Processes tab, select GhostRecon.exe *32 and click on the End Process button. Then launch Ghost Recon again and it works but takes some time to load (which decreasing load times on subsequent sessions, until the next reboot). I used to leave the GR CD in the drive, but it used to thrash it (so bypassed that), but after my last vanilla install I launched GR forgetting I still had the Rainbow 6 Vegas disk in the drive, and it still worked (as described above). Maybe worth a try, see if it works for you. I had this problem - GR takes an eternity to launch, or just hangs and won't launch at all until you kill the process in task manger and launch the executable again. After a lot of research I tracked the problem down to Games Explorer. In a nutshell, Games Explorer looks for info on the game, finds nothing, because it's ancient/no connection etc., and rundll32.exe starts consuming massive amounts of your CPU as it searches in vain. The simplest and quickest solution is to rename the GR executable and then it won't be recognised by Games Explorer. The nuclear option is to kill Games Explorer by going to Windows\SysWOW64 and deleting or renaming gameux.dll (to gameux.bad, or something), and that will stop it screwing up other old games. Incidentally, I had no problem installing GR on Windows 7-64 from the 'Gold Edition' disc, which has both expansions and no DRM (so you don't need the disc in the drive to play, which is handy). No idea if this version is still available, I bought it years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Kurz Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Many thanks Gloops, works a treat. I renamed the .exe and while it still takes some time to load (COD 4, for example, is much faster) it now launches first go. I also found it doesn't need the CD in the drive (having the R6 Vegas disk in the drive wasn't making any difference...). I have other older games so may look at nuking the Games Explorer as well. I have a '[Thing that should not be spoken of here IAW Forum Rule 3.7].exe' backed up, which must've been for Win 98/XP installs (can't think of/remember any other reason for having it); didn't want my legitimate software thrashing my drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Kurz Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 On 02/02/2020 at 10:53, 5Kurz said: I have a '[Thing that should not be spoken of here IAW Forum Rule 3.7].exe' Many apologies (especially to whoever had to edit my post). I've [since...] looked for the forum rules, found the FAQ which mentions 'this' (but no link), looked on the Main and Forum pages, and Googled: site:ghostrecon.net forum rules which shows a list of breaches but not the actual list. I'm probably missing the obvious (quite likely), so can someone include a url to the rules please? I found something that may be of relevance and want to make sure it is appropriate first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat50 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) @5Kurz I think '[Thing that should not be spoken of here IAW Forum Rule 3.7] is auto generated. I have had it happen to me as well. Not a big deal generally. Forum Guidlines If you hover over the browse tab at the top of a forum page you will get some options. Guidelines being one of them. And Rule 3.7:[3.7] Warez : Links to warez sites or discussion of warez is not permitted. Breach of this rule can lead to legal proceedings against this site, and will not be tolerated. Software cracks that remove the "CD/DVD check" are against the Ubi Soft licensing agreement and are included in this rule - which is strictly enforced. Posts containing CD-keys and links to sites of CD-keys will be deleted. Edited February 3, 2020 by wombat50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tit Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 That would make it convenient to not have to use the disk every time. I get 5 or more computers running GR at the same time and haveing to switch the disk to all the computers is super annoying honestly! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Kurz Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 On 03/02/2020 at 16:08, wombat50 said: @5Kurz I think '[Thing that should not be spoken of here IAW Forum Rule 3.7] is auto generated. I have had it happen to me as well. Not a big deal generally. And Rule 3.7:[3.7] Warez : Links to warez sites or discussion of warez is not permitted. Breach of this rule can lead to legal proceedings against this site, and will not be tolerated. Software cracks that remove the "CD/DVD check" are against the Ubi Soft licensing agreement and are included in this rule - which is strictly enforced. Posts containing CD-keys and links to sites of CD-keys will be deleted. Thanks Wombat. Is 'Sum Of All Fears' considered abandonware? I know 'some' do, but unless Ubi Soft considers it so, then I presume further discussion would be in breach of [3.7]. My concern is based around the SOAF maps, though I must admit that the first time I played, there was a certain sense of 'deja-vu' ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannik Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Sum of All Fears is still for sale, so it's not abandonware. Plus, abandonware still has copyright protection, so although nobody will sue you for illegal activities, they are still illegal activities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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