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I know Tinker has a thread about SSD drives but I have a couple of questions and didn't want to hijack Tinkers thread.

I'm thinking about getting the OCZ Vertex 3 Series SATA III 2.5-inch SDD 240GB.

The thing that is putting me off buying this is some reviews are not that good (look at the user reviews in the above link), there are reports of the PC freezing when using them with some motherboards which have the X58 chipset which mine has.

Check the user reviews at the bottom of this page.

These drives are not cheap so I don't want to waste that sort of cash if I'm buying into a whole heap of trouble, these problems don't seem to be related just to OCZ looking at reviews for other makes these freezing problems are being mentioned.

Has anyone else had these type of problems?

I don't know anything about these drives so any help here would be appreciated. :thumbsup:

EDIT:

Forgot to mention my motherboard is the Asus P6T Deluxe v2.

Edited by JohnTC02

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I have the Intel SSD on my Rampage II MB Its been in @ 6 months and i have had no problems :thumbsup:

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We had ssd drives installed in our database servers at work, (our database is quite large). For the first few months the drive speed was amazingly quick but after that they began to slow down. We contacted the manufacturer and found the sequential writes to the database files was causing the problems. Reliability wise, we have had no failures or lockups, we use intel rack mount servers. Im sorry but i cant tell you the precise chipsets the servers have as i dont know, and no, we are not running a raid array.

So if speed is what you are after I believe it depends a lot on what you are using the drives for but none of our servers have had failure or stalling issues with these drives.

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Thanks for the replies.

I've been doing some research on these SSD and the reviews seem to be about 50/50 for/against them.

Some say they are amazing while others are having various problems ranging from them dieing within minuets of them being installed, after a few weeks of use they slow down dramatically or constant freezing or the dreaded blue screen of death.

Some are also saying that updating the firmware is a complete nightmare.

So I can't decide what to do, I am tempted to go for it and hope for the best, but....

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I had a couple of ssd in RAID 0 configuration for 2 years without problem, but that disk you mention is a bit new, so I recommend you that wait (until they release a more stable firmware) or get an "older" disk with the firmware well tested (check that several firmware version are avaible, and what it corrected) . Mine are from GSKILL, and also many users reported problems at first, but as the time passed and new firmwares were released is a pretty stable and fast system now.

That disk is a bit risky, but could be worth to try, as you see your operating system flying at start up on a SSD. Also the Vertex 3 is a SATA3 drive, so you have to connect it to the marvell controller, for sata3 i would prefer to wait until Intel release a solution (depends on the motherboard you have). If you finally get one, check the guides out there to optimize Windows (if you are using it), for example you have to deactivate the defrag task, in order to avoid a premature wear of your disk.

Regards

Edit. I have read your motherboard model, that MB has not SATA3 port, so you cannot get the advantage of the SATA3 (6 GB/s) speeds (still works as SATA2) so if you don't plan to change your MB soon, a SATA2 SSD will be cheaper and maybe more reliable.

Edited by RickDekkard

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Hi Rick,

Thanks for the reply.

One question, what is a marvell controller.

This is the storage spec for my MB:

Southbridge

6 xSATA 3 Gb/s ports

Intel Matrix Storage Technology Support RAID Support RAID

Marvell 88SE6111

1 xUltraDMA 133/100/66 for up to 2 PATA devices

1 xExternal SATA (SATA On-the-Go)

I have checked for firmware updates are there a quite a few out there but didn't look what changes/updates they include.

If you want to check the full spec, link here:

http://uk.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1366/P6T_Deluxe_V2/#specifications

John

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I don't know why I thought my MB was SATA3 compatible so thanks for pointing that out Rick.

Order placed for the OCZ Vertex 2 240GB SATA II 2.5-inch SSD, should be here tomorrow so I'll let you know how I get on.

If I'm not on here for the next few days you will know things didn't go to well. :lol:

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I don't know why I thought my MB was SATA3 compatible so thanks for pointing that out Rick.

Order placed for the OCZ Vertex 2 240GB SATA II 2.5-inch SSD, should be here tomorrow so I'll let you know how I get on.

If I'm not on here for the next few days you will know things didn't go to well. :lol:

Yes John, your MB is not SATA3, is SATA2. It can use SATA3 disks, but at SATA2 speeds (because is downgrade compatible). With "Marvell controller" i mean the secondary controller that your MB has. As Intel controller included in X58 chipset is only SATA2 (SATA3 compatible but working as SATA2), usually in some X58 MBs (like mine from Gigabyte GA-X58-UD7) there are a secondary controller (from Marvell, in my case too) that has the SATA3 support. However in your case your secondary Marvell controller is older than mine and even is SATA2 also.

So I think is a good choice you made. With a SATA3 SSD you probably don't notice significant difference with a good SATA2 SSD in your PC, and also surely is more reliable at this moment. Moreover if you want to reach the top of your SATA2, you can add later a second SSD in RAID 0 configuration.

On behalf of the GRAW2 comunity I hope that your new disk will go fantastic, we need you and your maps :lol:

Regards.

Edited by RickDekkard

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The SSD arrived yesterday.

Had no problems really, installed the drive, partitioned, formatted and installed Win7.

All working fine and the computer now starts up in seconds rather the the usual minuets so all good so far.

Thanks to all that helped out plus thanks to Rick for pointing out that I was about to order the wrong drive, Ill buy you a drink when we next meet up Rick. :D;)

John

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The SSD arrived yesterday.

Had no problems really, installed the drive, partitioned, formatted and installed Win7.

All working fine and the computer now starts up in seconds rather the the usual minuets so all good so far.

Thanks to all that helped out plus thanks to Rick for pointing out that I was about to order the wrong drive, Ill buy you a drink when we next meet up Rick. :D;)

John

Thanks to you John, I'm glad to colaborate someway, you and every member on this forum make me enjoy this game to the max. Anycase I accept your invitation :thumbsup:

Please check this post: http://gskill.us/forum/showthread.php?t=913 it contains general advices about using SSD. The three more important steps are to disable or check that are already disabled:

1 Superfetch

2 Windows Defragmenter

3 Drive Indexing

Regards

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Thanks for the link Rick. :thumbsup:

The first thing I did when Win7 was installed was to disable the defrag and hibernation, I didn't know about superfech or drive indexing.

All these small tweaks will reduce the the amount of writes to the SSD.

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