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OK, I am not so sure about what I want to build this go round, an AMD or Intel platform. I haven't kept up with chips lately though I kind of like this Core Duo in my laptop though it is a bit old really, it's a T2350 at 1.86 gHz with a 533 mHz FSB.

I would like to build a fast and stable system with all new parts. CPU of at least a dual core with 2 GB of RAM in dual channel set up. No DDR3. I am looking at some WD 16MB cache SATA hard drives with at least one SATA DVD drive and a regular IDE optical drive. A high end video card is a must too, the nVidia 9xxx series sound promising. I have an afinity for ASUS motherboards and would like to have the option for SLi in the future. A new sound card is needed, I hear the X-Fi Extreme Gamer is aces. Any thoughts and recommendations you can make will help. Thanks.

I expect to have over $2000 to spend.

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WK77, don't get suckered into the cheap DDR2..like me <_< ....not an actual performance gain reported by many OC'er....I just read them yknow...my latest, Abit IP35 PRO couldn't hit the sweet spot with the memory I got...somewhere in its lifespan I need to change it with G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000)...this memory and my combo gains the most with them altogether.

I just posted on BFS on Hawt Deals thread on a CM Stacker 830SE for $99 @ Fry's.

If you believe in the Crysis hype and Play Crysis DX10 Very High with AntiAliasing 16xQ thread you will see what kind of rigs are playing it...some are ridiculous: 8800GTX 3-Way SLI for a 19" monitor :blink: really?

At least you can pick off parts list from that thread and get you GB-ready :thumbsup:

how about this combo: ASUS P5E3 Deluxe/WiFi-AP LGA 775 Intel X38 + Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor

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$2000 can go a long way these days, the reason I say that is I have the parts for a high-end system that is still waiting in my living room waiting to be built that including a quad-core Q6600 CPU, P35 mobo, Lian-Li aluminum case, 8800GTX and it cost me $1600

A few points:

- I'd suggest a quad-core CPU as you will benefit from one playing upcoming games such as those based on the Unreal Engine that will use all 4 cores. The Q6600 costs actually less than some of the new E8xxx series dual-cores

- Go for a SATA DVD burner. No point going with any IDE-based drives anymore these days

- Most mobos these days have built-in hi-def audio chips that are likely as good as the old SB Audigy. I do have a X-Fi Gamer on an older rig and it is worth the extra money if you have it to spend - consider getting the newer PCI-E version instead of the old PCI version.

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Remember, I will not be playing Crysis, but GB, GR, R6 (and hopefully RS), FS 2004, FSX, iL2 1946, SC and SC: PT, Sid Miers Railroads, Roller Coaster Tycoon 3, SimCity 4, NASCAR 2003, Dangerous Waters and Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy.

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I see - looks like the only games that will make your new system work hard at all would be GB or FSX.

For all the other games you listed, is your current system already adequate to run them at highest image quality settings with a decent (>60fps) framerate?

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+1 SATA DVD drive, cleaner install/cable management, easier to pull out too.

there's this Rocketfish brand in BestBuy for $48, its a full tower aluminum...its actually a rebadge Lian-li case...sweet deal....bought one just the heck of it.

+1 on CR6 suggestion on the Quad...if I have to do it all over again I'd get a Quad core...once in a blue moon I do some movie editing...some say it helps.

try to get those mobos with SATA facing sideways, just in case you get those long graphic cards, it won't block access to it if its facing sideways...like this:

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see Rocky's thread

http://www.ghostrecon.net/forums/index.php...=49651&st=0

Change the P5B out though for something like a

http://computers.pricegrabber.com/motherbo...E-sli/st=query/

If you go vista go with 64bit and 4gb of ram. It won't give you more fps but it will make it load about 5-10 secs faster for every game. Right now ram is cheap.

Stick with seagate SATA 2 for hard drive. When you get it, remember to take the jumper off or it will only run at sata1

Rocky's case is nice... or a thermaltake armor

I'm not sure if i would trust rocketfish for powersupplies. Get a decent brand though with at least 650watt (take it from me the one that burned the gtx up with the 430watt)

Asus makes some good, cheap OEM with software 20x burners with Nero basic (Vista capatible)

Look to viewsonic for Monitors. Based in California, There color is almost blinding. If you get the pro or graphic series you get tilt and heigth adjustment

Razer for Mice

Logitech g15 keyboard. You can download a ts mod for it that will show your buddies on the keyboard lcd and vent is supported out of the box. Also has a timer for when the wifey only gives you an hour to play.

don't forget that xifi!

I'll probably fill more in here when i have time

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https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishli...hListTitle=w00t

$1800+shipping for 4GB RAM, E8400 (3Ghz), 9800GTX, 22" monitor, 640GB hard drive, a non-Creative Vista compatible sound card, full tower case, DVD burner, X48 motherboard, 750w modular PSU, 5.1 headset, 2.1 Logitech speakers, and a surge suppressor. Some of these things I already have, some are what I want to bring in for my next upgrade. $2000 will go a looooong way with PC parts these days.

You can upgrade to a quad core 2.5GHZ for less than $100 more.

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https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishli...hListTitle=w00t

$1800+shipping for 4GB RAM, E8400 (3Ghz), 9800GTX, 22" monitor, 640GB hard drive, a non-Creative Vista compatible sound card, full tower case, DVD burner, X48 motherboard, 750w modular PSU, 5.1 headset, 2.1 Logitech speakers, and a surge suppressor. Some of these things I already have, some are what I want to bring in for my next upgrade. $2000 will go a looooong way with PC parts these days.

You can upgrade to a quad core 2.5GHZ for less than $100 more.

or give this a try: HDT-RS1283 (3 Heatpipes) just change the fan with some Yate Loons or Scynthe to keep it beye-beye-quiet or the RS1284 (4 heatpipes) which has been giving Thermalright 120 True Extreme a run for its money lately...without the hassle of lapping :thumbsup:

+1 on whateveryone has said also :thumbsup:

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Yeah, I agree about the quad core. The Q6600 has a great price right now and I really like mine. For a mouse, I didn't really like the feel of the razor mice so I went with logitech. Make sure you get a nice Zalman cooler or at least don't use the stock cooler for the CPU. Good luck with the build. :)

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though I like that monitor. I think that is a go. :thumbsup:

$299 is a bit much for a 22" model though. I paid $199 over a year ago for one that I really really liked. Wasn't top of the line or anything.

Edit: Ooops. Didn't see the built in webcam part. Not bad if you'd use it, which I probably would not.

I was actually looking at this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824112011 before I just bought my HDTV/monitor recently. If you don't mind rebates it's pretty nice.

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just in case some of these are in your list:

Fry's One-Day Sale In-Store only...unless they screwed up, again, and made it available on-line

MS WinXP OEM $129

Canon SD750 7.1 point-n-shoot Digital Camera $197

eVGA 8600GT 1GB PCI-E $119-$50MIR=$69

Zalman CNPS9700LED (blue) CPU Cooler $19

Creative Xtremegamer Fatal1ty pro $99-instant $50-$50MIR=$49

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I wouldn't get the gigabyte case... note it looks like 80mm fans in the back

They will be loud. Go with a case using 120mm. They run at a lower rpm and deliver the same cooling.

Also i shy away from WD... check the reviews... one of them even got a dead drive.

This case rocks

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811133021

Has a 250mm side fan. Also it has enough room for the GTX

Try this drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148288

Note 32mb cache... also seagate as a 5 year warranty

The 9800GTX he quoted by EVGA is great!

For the board

http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&amp...amp;modelmenu=2

New egg mislabeled it as a server board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...82E16813131173R

It's a great deal and 3, yes count it 3 16x SLI Slots!

Match the memory

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...00D2N5K2%252f4G

85.00 for 4gb!!! it supports up to 8. Might as well get 2 lol if your doing 64bit.

This is 800mhz DDR2. Not overlclocking stuff, but good ram and life time warrantied by kingston.

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Oh and here is the viewsonic monitor

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824116060

On the right click on specifications

Also note on the back of the left pictures... it has cable guide clips built in, and it does DVI which is a must and height adjustment... which i love with my 19 inch as i have a raised cornershelf that i can drop it all the way to the shelf with so it's perfect viewing for gaming.

Note also that viewsonic shows the static contrast ratio not the dynamic. Multiply it by 4 to see around what the dynamic would be.

I have sold these and the picture quality is superb.

Top that off with a 3 year warranty and they do next day advanced replacement after calling it to someone who speaks english.

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I wouldn't get the gigabyte case... note it looks like 80mm fans in the back

They will be loud. Go with a case using 120mm. They run at a lower rpm and deliver the same cooling.

Also i shy away from WD... check the reviews... one of them even got a dead drive.

This case rocks

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811133021

Has a 250mm side fan. Also it has enough room for the GTX

Try this drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148288

Note 32mb cache... also seagate as a 5 year warranty

The 9800GTX he quoted by EVGA is great!

For the board

http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&amp...amp;modelmenu=2

New egg mislabeled it as a server board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...82E16813131173R

It's a great deal and 3, yes count it 3 16x SLI Slots!

Match the memory

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...00D2N5K2%252f4G

85.00 for 4gb!!! it supports up to 8. Might as well get 2 lol if your doing 64bit.

This is 800mhz DDR2. Not overlclocking stuff, but good ram and life time warrantied by kingston.

That Gigabyte case has 2 80mm fans that are inside for the hard drives, the other 3 are 120mm. Personally I find the case to be relatively quiet and well worth the money (especially since I got a deal on it at $115). For the hard drive with the 640GB drive you'd get something that's cooler and overall faster than the Seagate, but neither are bad choices. The reason I went with the X48 motherboard is because it's a newer chipset that supposedly will support Intels next set of CPUs, while the 6xx and 7xx won't. Supposedly. Also, that Patriot RAM has tighter timings than the Kingston for only $2 more per 4GB :)

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I wouldn't get the gigabyte case... note it looks like 80mm fans in the back

They will be loud. Go with a case using 120mm. They run at a lower rpm and deliver the same cooling.

Also i shy away from WD... check the reviews... one of them even got a dead drive.

This case rocks

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811133021

Has a 250mm side fan. Also it has enough room for the GTX

Try this drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148288

Note 32mb cache... also seagate as a 5 year warranty

The 9800GTX he quoted by EVGA is great!

For the board

http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&amp...amp;modelmenu=2

New egg mislabeled it as a server board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...82E16813131173R

It's a great deal and 3, yes count it 3 16x SLI Slots!

Match the memory

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...00D2N5K2%252f4G

85.00 for 4gb!!! it supports up to 8. Might as well get 2 lol if your doing 64bit.

This is 800mhz DDR2. Not overlclocking stuff, but good ram and life time warrantied by kingston.

That Gigabyte case has 2 80mm fans that are inside for the hard drives, the other 3 are 120mm. Personally I find the case to be relatively quiet and well worth the money (especially since I got a deal on it at $115). For the hard drive with the 640GB drive you'd get something that's cooler and overall faster than the Seagate, but neither are bad choices. The reason I went with the X48 motherboard is because it's a newer chipset that supposedly will support Intels next set of CPUs, while the 6xx and 7xx won't. Supposedly. Also, that Patriot RAM has tighter timings than the Kingston for only $2 more per 4GB :)

For the mainboard note...

http://www.motherboardpro.com/DFI-LanParty...oard-p-557.html

Under expansion... Crossfire. That means no SLI, means NVIDIA would limit you to 1 card. Until Intel gets out of the contract with ATI (prior to amd buying them) you won't see SLI intel boards.

I have no experience with Patriot ram, but our business customers demand either kingson or Crucuial due to lifetime warranties and VERY few failures. (Been years since i had a bad stick of kingston) That's why i also said though it's not for the over clocker. Just for stability. They don't require ram heatsinks and such. Also both modules are CL5 for latency. Can't find a full timings spec for kingston but with CL5 on both i doubt you will notice anything. The patriot would probably overclock more due to heatsinks...

I don't know the gigabyte case, just noted that 80mm is always louder then 120. Especially for back exhaust as it is the primary heat remover. The thermaltake i spec'd also has a 92 out the top and i think it was an 80 behind the hdd's at the top also. Just not used for primary exhaust and are lower rpm versions.

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The back fans are 120mm, the 2 80mm fans are on the side (which means 3 120mm fans and 2 80mm fans), but those can always be replaced with low noise 80mm fans, or even not used if you want. I don't think the noise on mine are that bad at all, especially since I usually have headphones on. The Kingston RAM is rated at 5-5-5-18 while the Patriot is at 5-5-5-12, so it is slightly faster and, like you said, probably able to overclock more.

For the board being Crossfire, I don't think that would be much of an issue. At the worst case just wait another 3 or 4 weeks for the 4870 to come out. It's supposedly going to perform around the 9800GTX and at the same price point too.

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Quad cores of whatever flavor (130W*) mated with a top shelf GPU (450+W*) will soak up alot of power...If I could do it over I would have got a 1,000 Watt model instead of the 700 Watt PSU I did, just to have a respectable buffer/reserve, as well as future-proofing/2nd GPU, etc.

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I like this part:

Power supply requirements call for a 450 watt unit for a single card and a 550 watt version for two cards. Given the fact that ATI has to state this for PoS power supplies, CrossFire should do just fine with a top notch 400 watt power supply.

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Thermalright Ultra-120 CPU Cooling Heatsink (without fan) - Retail $59.99

XIGMATEK HDT-S1284 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler (with fan)- Retail $44.99 nice price/performance ratio...make sure you get a Thermalright LGA775 Bolt-Thru-Kit Retail BOX vs the push pins just in case you like to flip motherboards around from ATX to Reverse-ATX, like some ppl :shifty:

forgot where I saw this...modder make a holes on the motherboard tray, giving access to the bolt on kit from the back of motherboard tray, so he can switch CPU coolers without removing the motherboard...I think he's one of the modders who constantly review CPU coolers...

5 pages of bantering about the product :lol:

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