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well i love the game, best game on 360(not counting GEO Wars that is) but it has a few problems...

The first would definatly have to be AI, Enemy and Friendly...

Mainly cause the Enemy knows where you are at all times, like you walk around a corner and he is looking other way, bam your dead...

Freindlys ccause they are so *** dumb... that about sums that up nicely...

Graphics... While they are nice, some animations are crap... i mean look at PDZ when you look at someone reloading in game you actually see their mag being removed, which is cool...

Now that wouldnt be that big if GRAW was mainly FPS(like you cant choost 3rd person), but you HAVE to see your charecter reload, and yet the mag remains... it looks like crap...

How you have to launch into campaign or multi, and wait for it to load...

and some acheivments are just unreachable...

And then On to to multipayer...

So why no spectator mode eh??? i mean once you finish waiting forever to even see what games are availible, you have to sit there at stare at a screen to actually, eventually play.

Why do the graphics suck? Well they are better than most all games, but why not as good as single? I could understand them being bad if you were playing split screen, but you arent. I mean PDZ has same graphics in multi as single... why cant GRAW do it? i meant its not like it was a launch game...

No bullet holes, bad textures... etc...

Oh and the fact that it seems to be made by an entirely different game company... it looses very good features from single player, like perring around walls and such. I know it would be kinda cheap, but it would teach people to use cover....

And the controls, oh the controlls... DAMN!!! they *** those up.. like tap the stick and u do a 180, and noo oh nooo you cant change the sensitivity!! oh and different control schemes... *** that!!! we already got your money!!!

Stupid UbiSoft people, didnt they have usability tests... i mean on tester must have said, jeez these controls are too touchy...

But whatever, its still fun maybe they can fix it...

Like a patch to make the AI at least some what beleivable, but yea, hopefully Splinter Cell wont turn out like this

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This isn't a place to ######. It's a place to come and congratulate Ubi on what a great job they did. -sighs-. But, I'll do my best to answer your questions, anyways.

First, for the AI, play the game on Hard Mode. It's frighteningly good.

Second, the clip remove problem is really no big deal. It's a small compromise for the huge amount of other detail that Ubi crammed in.

Third, you have to let the Single and Multi menus load because they are two completely different game engines.

Fourth, no they aren't. Play hard enough, practice enough, get the levels down, play some co-op, and the achievements really aren't that hard to get.

Fifth, the way the engine is set up, you can't just drop into a game. This is probably also a balancing issue on Ubi's part, seeing as players could join a friend’s game and spectate, and at the same time, be in private chat with their friend actually playing the game. This is commonly known as "ghosting", and is extremely unfair to the other team.

Sixth, the graphics don't suck. Compare them to any other game out there right now. They're better than any previous-gen game ever released, and they hold up pretty well to most next-gen games. The reason the graphics aren't the same is because of the amount of enemies that is sometimes present in the multi-player (at times, there can be upwards of a hundred AI on screen at once), in addition the sheer scale of the levels take a hit on the graphics, too. Think about it, would you rather have super-choppy game-play with great graphics, or smooth, fluid game-play with huge, open levels?

Seventh, Red Storm Entertainment is basically part of Ubisoft, and they always work in close relations with each other. The fact that it was made by an entirely separate division of developers is one of the main reasons it rocks so hard. One studio can focus entirely on single player and the other entirely on multiplayer. This makes for basically two complete games, all on the same disc, all offering totally awesome different features and fun-factors. I think that Ubi and RSE did an amazing job, and each has my hearty thanks.

Eighth, the controls are fluid, innovative, and easy to pick up. I don't see why you're complaining about them.

Ubisoft is not stupid. They did plenty of user tests, with left-handed people AND right-handed people. The testers unanimously agreed on the controls. Get over it and move on.

Nothing more.

- Drew

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"This isn't a place to ######. It's a place to come and congratulate Ubi on what a great job they did. -sighs-. But, I'll do my best to answer your questions, anyways."

I actually thought that this was a place for gamers to come and discuss the pro's and con's of games ... while I do and will congratulate ubi and RSE when I think they deserve it I will also call them to task when I think they have F'd up -for instance screwing over PC gamers with GR2 ...

"Fourth, no they aren't. Play hard enough, practice enough, get the levels down, play some co-op, and the achievements really aren't that hard to get."

While it does not matter to me - the "Champion" achievements are close to impossible for the majority of gamers to achieve .. nature of the beast when you only give an achievement for being the best overall .

"Fifth, the way the engine is set up, you can't just drop into a game. This is probably also a balancing issue on Ubi's part, seeing as players could join a friend’s game and spectate, and at the same time, be in private chat with their friend actually playing the game. This is commonly known as "ghosting", and is extremely unfair to the other team."

I could see this as a reason in ranked matches ... maybe but players still can join a friends game and ghost if a host allows them to go on observe - the Live private chat is something that clans will have to deal with as even "dead" players will still be able to provide some intel if they want to.

"Ubisoft is not stupid. They did plenty of user tests, with left-handed people AND right-handed people. The testers unanimously agreed on the controls. Get over it and move on."

Based on calls for a south paw layout (even in mag reviews) Ubi did drop the ball on this one. Why not include a south paw layout or make the controller layouts more cutomizable? As for "plenty of user tests" well that is still a pet peeve of mine as I would like to see Beta testing on live prior to launch. Maybe if that had been done the game freeze issue would have been addressed sooner...

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If GRAW is compared to Perfect Dark Zero one more time i think i will flip!!!!

BOOO FREAKIN HOOO man. Come on, its a great game, just because it isnt to your standards doesnt give you the right to come in and point out every flaw. HOLY CRAP!!

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Yeah.

And I sure, it's fine to come and talk about the pros and cons, W1ngsh0t. But you shouldn't just walk in and start blatantly bashing it like Scoggs here did.

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"well i love the game, best game on 360(not counting GEO Wars that is) but it has a few problems..."

Well he did start with the above comment ...

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Well, I've been playing it for two weeks now. And I kinda agree on some parts. Played both settings. It tends to be abit overscripted at points. And the AI seems to notice you after passing a certain line. The thread starter is right about this.

Also the controls aren't all that. And the level of customization is low. And Ubi looses points here. As to the gfx, in my opinion they simply rock and are some of the best I've seen sofar. The reload animation makes Ubi look stupid and should have been fixed before release, no discussion possible over that part. Also a lack of weapons in sp mode makes it not worth playing over and over again. Which is ashame. It's a great game, but nowhere near perfection. I'm hoping the pc will be more tactical and deeper in gameplay. While I think the xbox 360 version is on par with GR 1. I hope the pc version will surpass it. Btw, I rented GRAW for two weeks, bought the xbox 360 including harddrive and ######. But I'll safe my money for the pc version. I got my bite of the 360 version and instead on buying it for the xbox 360. I'll grab BF2 for the xbox 360, bigger and better gfx. I liked the multiplayer part in GRAW, but it ain't on the same level as EA game. At first I rated GRAw a good 9. Now I'll give it a 8.5, great, but not perfect. And not much replay value, no unlocks in sp mode. And multiplayer, although nice, not all that great. the 15 euro rent is well spend, and for those out there, try it before buying.

Cheers

Edited by M95-Sniper

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well i love the game, best game on 360(not counting GEO Wars that is) but it has a few problems...

But whatever, its still fun maybe they can fix it...

Eh, minor rant. Considering these two statements it sounds like they still like the game.

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Think about it, would you rather have super-choppy game-play with great graphics, or smooth, fluid game-play with huge, open levels?

When I fired up GRAW for the 1st time and played a little SP I was concerned.

Followed by relief when I tried the MP.

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Well some other stuff, like the grainyness of the multiplaer maps, altho its probably my tv. I havent been able to try the game on my HD yet.

But unless you read the whole thing, i still love the game. There are just a few minor errors. And if you are so ignorant as to hate anyone that has an opinion, well sucks for you.

I am just pointing them out and maybe Ubi can maybe fix it.

Like really the AI blows, like i will be peering around a corner, see an enemy and start shooting and my buddy will run in front of me thus dying cause he is a complete ############.

Just the little anoying bits really.

And to get one thins straight i never said the graphics were bad, its just some stuff is just stupid. Like really force us to see our guy reload yet no mag remove w/ empty hand? Kinda dumb on their part.

And for the controls, they are annoying in a sense of you cant really edit them sensitivity wise, and too bad for southpaws(i am a left, but i play normal) But once you get used to them its all fine, and fun. But the option sould still be nice.

Why are multiplayer and Single so different? Like for instance on your hud if you look at a teammate and/or objective why doesnt the range indicator come up? I had a problem with that last night, dont kno why tho.

Thanks for the ignorant flames, and thanks for the guys who were nice about it

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"Think about it, would you rather have super-choppy game-play with great graphics, or smooth, fluid game-play with huge, open levels?"

I would settle for fluid gameplay on Medium, open levels ;) ... again one of my pet peeves is that the maps have gotten smaller and more constricted. While treasury is a large map it is by no means huge or open and the same goes for Old Town. None of the maps are on the scale of Rolling Hills or Peaks let alone Missle Site, Fuel Depot, River Valley etc ...

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Whats ignorant is posting flaws in this thread when there is already a bug list going with major bugs rather than negative opinions.

The SP and MP are so different because to different parts of the world made them.

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Whats ignorant is posting flaws in this thread when there is already a bug list going with major bugs rather than negative opinions.

The SP and MP are so different because to different parts of the world made them.

whats wrong with negative opinions?

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Whats ignorant is posting flaws in this thread when there is already a bug list going with major bugs rather than negative opinions.

The SP and MP are so different because to different parts of the world made them.

whats wrong with negative opinions?

Nothing, and after two weeks I also must admit that although great, lacks depth and replayability features in campaign mode. I even bought a xbox 360 to play this game, but will go back to the pc version when it hits the shelves. If you want to read my review hit to the pc parts of the forum, it changed after two weeks of playing.

Cheers

Edited by M95-Sniper

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whats wrong with negative opinions?

Nothing, as long as you are not simply bashing the game, and you didn't, so there is nothing wrong with your post.

However, you did say this...

"Stupid UbiSoft people, didnt they have usability tests... "

That could be construed as a flame (I'm not saying that it was your intention, just how you came across), so calling a bad decision for what it is amounts to being good enough. No need to label anyone/people. Otherwise, I don't see anything wrong with your posts. :thumbsup:

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Whats ignorant is posting flaws in this thread when there is already a bug list going with major bugs rather than negative opinions.

The SP and MP are so different because to different parts of the world made them.

whats wrong with negative opinions?

Nothing, and after two weeks I also must admit that although great, lacks depth and replayability features in campaign mode. I even bought a xbox 360 to play this game, but will go back to the pc version when it hits the shelves. If you want to read my review hit to the pc parts of the forum, it changed after two weeks of playing.

Cheers

yea that was a little out of line, and im sorry...

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Hi guys,

I'm a relatively new gamer, have a 360 and Ghost Recon for about a week. Single game player.

I can't get beyond the helicopter ride with the shooters on the roof. I've done it a :( hundred times and I'm always shot before the thing lands. Sometimes I get close to the ground, sometimes i'm quickly shot from the roof people.

I've mastered Call of Duty 2 (and its previous versions) but i'm really doing poorly on this game.

Help!

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Hi guys,

I'm a relatively new gamer, have a 360 and Ghost Recon for about a week. Single game player.

I can't get beyond the helicopter ride with the shooters on the roof. I've done it a  :( hundred times and I'm always shot before the thing lands. Sometimes I get close to the ground, sometimes i'm quickly shot from the roof people.

I've mastered Call of Duty 2 (and its previous versions) but i'm really doing poorly on this game.

Help!

Hey, mate google cheats for graw+xbox+360 , there is one cheat which allows temporary invisibility for a small time during the game, sounds like you need it. The helicopter ride on hard is insane, took me about 15 tries before I got through, all of a sudden, they all seem marksman, hard settings is just what it says hard!

Cheers

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Hi guys,

I'm a relatively new gamer, have a 360 and Ghost Recon for about a week. Single game player.

I can't get beyond the helicopter ride with the shooters on the roof. I've done it a  :( hundred times and I'm always shot before the thing lands. Sometimes I get close to the ground, sometimes i'm quickly shot from the roof people.

I've mastered Call of Duty 2 (and its previous versions) but i'm really doing poorly on this game.

Help!

Hey, mate google cheats for graw+xbox+360 , there is one cheat which allows temporary invisibility for a small time during the game, sounds like you need it. The helicopter ride on hard is insane, took me about 15 tries before I got through, all of a sudden, they all seem marksman, hard settings is just what it says hard!

Cheers

Thanks Sniper,

I'll look for that cheat because I'm at rope's end. And I'm only playing normal not hard.

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it's true. the graphics do take a step back in multiplayer. all the reviews talk about this. not much of a step back, but still noticeable. but in hd (720p or 10801) it still looks better than any of the other ghost recons. but you have to remember, playing in a room with 16 people with voice enabled and tons of enemies then having to render these detailed maps takes up a lot of bandwidth. i don't think it's a 360 or ubisoft issue but more of a internet issue. ubisoft was probably playing it safe in order to provide the best online experience. there's always give and take.

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Hi guys,

I'm a relatively new gamer, have a 360 and Ghost Recon for about a week. Single game player.

I can't get beyond the helicopter ride with the shooters on the roof. I've done it a  :( hundred times and I'm always shot before the thing lands. Sometimes I get close to the ground, sometimes i'm quickly shot from the roof people.

I've mastered Call of Duty 2 (and its previous versions) but i'm really doing poorly on this game.

Help!

If it's the first doorgunner mission then make sure you're set up with the weapon in right direction and practise when to pull the trigger so that the minigun spins up and you're spitting bullets at the right time, not one sec after you want to be.

If it's the mission after you've come along the rooves, then you need to make sure you take out the RPG soldiers. There are two of them near the end of the map, they'll kill you every time, the pilot will warn you of them.

Otherwise, general helicopter tips, go for the trucks and cars that groups of enemies cluster around, when you blow the car or jeep then you kill everyone nearby with the explosion. :thumbsup:

Goes without saying that any vehicle with an HMG on board needs to go first!!

You can zoom with left analogue click to get accurate over long distances, but don't use it unless you're at long range.

Other than that, make sure you rest the weapon while you're scoping for targets, once it's in the red it's always better to stop firing for a while rather than try and limp on with the crap RoF.

Shooting fish in a barrel!! :o=

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