bnk182s Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Hey, I am running a G-FORCE 4 and am looking to upgrade. I am "blind" when it comes to this, so any help will be great. I am trying to upgrade for Half Life 2, because I'm not sure if I can run it well with this. Please in your suggestions remember that they are INCREDIBLY expensive and I am INCREDIBLY thrifty! Thanks for your help guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakebite1967 Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 comes down to what u r willing to spend and how future proof u wish it to be , if you dont wish to spend the amount for either a 6800 or an x800 then i suggest a 9800 pro 128 bit 256 bus not one of those saphire knock off 128/128's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 A standard 6800 can be had for $300, although I havent seen any benchmarks on it, so I cant comment on its performance. I still think the best bang/buck card is the 9800 Pro for around $200. The 256MB version is about $50 more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef-Scott Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 What is your computer? CPU? RAM? Post your dxdiag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnk182s Posted July 1, 2004 Author Share Posted July 1, 2004 Sorry- cant post now, my gaming comp is in the shop. Damn Viruses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Perhaps you should invest in an anti-virus program and a firewall of some sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnk182s Posted July 1, 2004 Author Share Posted July 1, 2004 I had norton but it just didnt cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnk182s Posted July 1, 2004 Author Share Posted July 1, 2004 How far into the future will a 9800 pro go? Also, is a 9800 better than the 9600? This just shows my knowlege in these areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 (edited) A 9800 is better than a 9600. I think a 9800 Pro will easily get you at least eight months, probably more. Edited July 1, 2004 by Crimson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteKnight77 Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 Is your gaming rig a custom made rig in a standard ATX case or is it a name brand PC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnk182s Posted July 2, 2004 Author Share Posted July 2, 2004 it's a custom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteKnight77 Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 Make sure you have a large enough power supply. If the motheboard is pretty recent, you should have no problems upgrading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnk182s Posted July 2, 2004 Author Share Posted July 2, 2004 Well right now, after looking at all the prices for the cards, do you think the G-Force 4 will get me through HL2 and all the way until Xmas ( hopefully getting my parents to do the dirty work). My motherboard is: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series--GA-8st800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 (edited) It might... you would probably have to turn the graphics down to next to nothing. It's going to depend on what processor and how much/how fast your memory is. You're going to need a Ti4600, not an MX card. Edited July 2, 2004 by Crimson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnk182s Posted July 2, 2004 Author Share Posted July 2, 2004 whats a Ti4600? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRP 56 Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 whats a Ti4600? NVIDIA Ti4600 One of the better old graphics cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supasniper Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 an ATI 9600 is a cheepish card and has a lot of power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef-Scott Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 ATI 9800 Pro or ATI 9800 XT. The 9800 Pro can be had for a little under $200 (US) and the XT is only slightly more (9800 Pro = 128 MB 9800 XT = 256 MB) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannik Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 Don't forget to check the bitrate of the memory interface on Radeon 9800Pro cards. Most of the $200 cards you are seeing only have 128bit memory interfaces, as opposed to the 'real' 9800Pro's 256bit interface. They are crippled versions of the same card, with the same name. Sapphire and ATi have both been quietly releasing these variants, along with who knows who else. A Radeon 9800Pro should have a 256bit memory interface. If it's not, it's a crippleware card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef-Scott Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 Most of the $200 cards you are seeing only have 128bit memory interfaces, as opposed to the 'real' 9800Pro's 256bit interface. They are crippled versions of the same card, with the same name. Sapphire and ATi have both been quietly releasing these variants, along with who knows who else. I would expect that from Sapphire and other 3rd party companies. Not from ATI. All ATI 9800 Pro and 9800 XT cards are 256 bit memory interface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnk182s Posted July 3, 2004 Author Share Posted July 3, 2004 damn- i am really having trouble understanding all this. oh well. Thanks for the help guys but I think I'm gonna stick with my gforce 4 and pray. thanks again guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannik Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 (edited) Ah, yes. My mistake on ATi. Sapphire has certainly been sneaky, but ATi has never been found to partake in this practice. I regret my error. Still, I stand by the advice to ensure the card you are purchasing as a Radeon 9800Pro is NOT a 128bit memory interface. With the prices dropping so fast, some have been tricked into lower end versions of the cards they thought they were buying. Edited July 3, 2004 by Dannik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supasniper Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 you mean 256bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannik Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 you mean 256bit? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comsaf100 Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 At the risk of sparking an arguement, what are the views about AGP vs PCI? As a computer novice I am unsure which way to go for my next computer. Either go for a Dell with PCI based graphics card, or do what a knowledgable mate suggests - go for a custom job with AGP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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